|
I've been checking out rx7s for a bit and have been reading up on things here and there, i've decided that i want to get an FC (turbo preferably), what is the price range for a good and running FC? Also, what should i search for when buying an Fc? i've read somewhere that people prefer to have a cold start to see if white smoke comes out, and what not, what do they mean by that? Also, if i get one, what are the first things i should do to it, in a tuneup? anything special required? Any and all information would be great cause im very interested ingetting myself an Fc...thanks in advance
Ez |
cold start /white smoke isnt much of a problem unless its a heavy amount, its the blueish smoke that worries me. all cars smoke alittle bit when cold.
check the idle rpm and how smooth or rough it may be, i like to see them idling 1000rpm or less under full operating temps. tune up is a good idea, buy good ngk spark plugs for sure, mazda sells them so do some parts stores, do not run any non rotary specific plug in the car for it wont run for ****. if buying a s4 (86-88) turbo car check the exhaust manifold for cracks and make sure the twinscroll is working properly. also check the oil make sure there isnt any coolent in it, it may sound odd but a blown motor can still run. other then that there may be some other ppls on here that have some other ideas for ya, im too tired to think right now. happy shopping. |
thanks man, anybody else have any more advice or suggestions?....i really want this car and when i buy it i wanna start off on the right foot....thanks in advance
Ez |
Originally Posted by fc3sboy1' post='765410' date='Oct 1 2005, 11:17 PM
cold start /white smoke isnt much of a problem unless its a heavy amount, its the blueish smoke that worries me. all cars smoke alittle bit when cold. check the idle rpm and how smooth or rough it may be, i like to see them idling 1000rpm or less under full operating temps. tune up is a good idea, buy good ngk spark plugs for sure, mazda sells them so do some parts stores, do not run any non rotary specific plug in the car for it wont run for ****. if buying a s4 (86-88) turbo car check the exhaust manifold for cracks and make sure the twinscroll is working properly. also check the oil make sure there isnt any coolent in it, it may sound odd but a blown motor can still run. other then that there may be some other ppls on here that have some other ideas for ya, im too tired to think right now. happy shopping. Negative... I bought my first first gen with no smoke on start up but a little puff, didnt think anything of it because I knew nothing about rotarys so we bought it. Six Months later I could smoke out the neighborhood because of the coolant seal being bad. My 2nd Gen doesnt smoke...at all. |
yeah they shouldnt have any white smoke at startup, this means coolant in the chambers.
|
Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' post='765995' date='Oct 3 2005, 05:15 PM
yeah they shouldnt have any white smoke at startup, this means coolant in the chambers. i see, i see....and what's the price range for a fair condition, (preferably perfect, but hey, its an old car) and running well FC?....turbo?....N/A?.... |
the white smoke you speak of is just condensation(water) in the exhaust being burnt off. that is all.
It all really depends on the area where you are buying, condition, mileage, modifications,etc. You would be better off buying a non-modified car, because you start off nice and fresh, try to find something with a remaned motor. But you end up paying more for that type of thing. Good luck on looking. You can also check out the 2nd Gen FAQ section, there is a TON of info on there for what to do first, helpful tips, etc. |
Originally Posted by rowtareh' post='766104' date='Oct 3 2005, 09:53 PM
the white smoke you speak of is just condensation(water) in the exhaust being burnt off. that is all. It all really depends on the area where you are buying, condition, mileage, modifications,etc. You would be better off buying a non-modified car, because you start off nice and fresh, try to find something with a remaned motor. But you end up paying more for that type of thing. Good luck on looking. You can also check out the 2nd Gen FAQ section, there is a TON of info on there for what to do first, helpful tips, etc. You're joking right? Uhh, when your car SPITS out coolant after having white smoke that you speak of for months, I think it's safe to say that ANY SMOKE IS BAD. My 2nd Generation RX7 doesnt smoke any oil, coolant, etc, at start up, my dads rx8 doesnt, his first generation GSL doesnt...its not normal... |
Originally Posted by Tech_Greek' post='766128' date='Oct 3 2005, 11:43 PM
You're joking right? Uhh, when your car SPITS out coolant after having white smoke that you speak of for months, I think it's safe to say that ANY SMOKE IS BAD. My 2nd Generation RX7 doesnt smoke any oil, coolant, etc, at start up, my dads rx8 doesnt, his first generation GSL doesnt...its not normal... Wow, you must just be special. Oh, and how come when I start up a new car where I work at, it puts out a little smoke? Are all of the cars blowing coolant out, oil out? C'mon, tell me all knowing rotary god, because you are coming off as is. Or are you just that damn special? |
thanks for the advice guys, now can any1 help me with a price range for these cars, turbo and non-turbo?...and which would be the more sensible choice starting from scratch? pros? cons?
|
prices can vary a lot based on location, condition, mods, etc. its better to find something then post up about it and see if people think its a good price.
|
Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' post='766246' date='Oct 4 2005, 02:24 PM
prices can vary a lot based on location, condition, mods, etc. its better to find something then post up about it and see if people think its a good price. I concur. Whatever you are looking at, post it up and we can help you out. Good luck. |
price range for TIIs: $1000 and up
price range for N/A- $0-up its hard to say, but generally speaking if your paying over $3000-$4000 for either they should be in the better condition catagory, with a NA in that price range being in better shape then a TII in the same price range there are of course people who find jems for cheaper, your best bet is to stumble on one local that you can drive, feel, and smell yourself. |
Maybe you missed the whole SMOKE IS BAD...there's a reason why it's happening...
And if your new cars are rolling of the lot smoking, I feel sorry for the customers... |
There's a difference between smoking and steaming... especially if its humid out, the car may appear to have some smoke out the pipes on startup. This could be just moisture in the exhaust system like rowtareh said.
|
Look for rust. Espicially if its a Northern car.
Prices seemed to have gone up for a perfect FC. I paid $3700 about 3 years ago for my 87 with 60K miles on it from the original owner. No mods, never driven in the winter (it was always stored in a heated garage on blocks). Absolutely no rust, even though it was from New York. Now your looking at at least 4500 for one like that. As Shane and Rob-x7 stated, the price range is very dependant on alot of factors. |
Originally Posted by FCmaniac' post='767643' date='Oct 9 2005, 11:05 AM
There's a difference between smoking and steaming... especially if its humid out, the car may appear to have some smoke out the pipes on startup. This could be just moisture in the exhaust system like rowtareh said. I agree. Every engine does that when its cold out. Its just like being able to see your breath on a cold morning. If anything, smell it to see if it smells like coolant or oil. If it smells like a rotary, then your good to go https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png |
That is what I meant to say. Cold start up's will emit some amount of smoke. It is just the heat from the engine going through the exhaust, and coming into a colder enviroment.
****, it is like giving a cavity search when explaining something. |
Oh ok, I thought you meant on a normal warm day...yeah on a cold day it's normal hehe...
I was hoping you didn't mean a normal day...phew no harm done |
look in kelly blue book for pricing on each model. include all options that you can so you get a high price so you know what your limit is on that specific model/year. www.kbb.com is the website
|
Originally Posted by Tech_Greek' post='767787
(Post 676096)
look in kelly blue book for pricing on each model. include all options that you can so you get a high price so you know what your limit is on that specific model/year. www.kbb.com is the website
Kelley Blue Book does not mean **** when buying or selling cars. Especially performance cars. Most people who look at these cars are willing to pay extra money for them. KBB is set up by banks, not by people who buy and sell cars. Anyhow, good luck on your search, and post pics when you buy one. |
Originally Posted by rowtareh' post='768454' date='Oct 11 2005, 10:54 PM
Kelley Blue Book does not mean **** when buying or selling cars. Especially performance cars. Most people who look at these cars are willing to pay extra money for them. KBB is set up by banks, not by people who buy and sell cars. I loved hearing that a 94 FD with 56000 miles on it was worth $9600. Go banks. |
| All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:15 PM. |
© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands