Did you see Greg's motor? It looked like somebody took a cut-off wheel to the water seal groove.[/quote]

i think he showed me. he told me it was all F'd up........



i warned him. told him mine was bad and that HE DOESN"T HAVE BETTER LUCK THAN ME https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif[/quote]

Yeah, you two haven't had much luck. We need to start a save vosko and greg fund. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

How much do you think it will cost for a rebuild? Then possibly porting it on top of that? very curious, since I don't think I have the money to do it and I don't want to be out a car.

Vosko you said it happened to two of your cars? what exactly was the problem? What parts were affected and how did you fix it? I heard that Isamu did a rebuild by himself do you know how much it ended up costing him, or even how long it took? Sorry about getting on your ass with all the questions, but this is already affecting my work schedule.

isamu did street port and a few other little things, don't quote me cause I don't remember exactly, but I think he paid around $1,000.

That's pretty cheap compared to the quote I got from Atkin's (1800? or around there)



Anyway, update on the car:

I drove it today (brave soul) and noticed

a few odd things, when the car was evily overheated the radiator was still cool to the touch, well right there I calculated that it might be a clogged line possibly? Anyway, I keep remembering that compression was mentioned, so could it be that there is something that is supposed to suck/blow the coolant through the radiator? Not sure... It could be a vital problem right there. Another thing I noticed is that my engine would turn over but not start, well now the engine won't turn, but I can still pop the clutch. The last one, my wife just brought to my attention was, that my car keep sending me the "Coolant low" msg, along with that god forsaken buzzing, well I keep filling the coolant and it still won't cut off the msg? I think that is kind of weird and a little annoying.... Thoughts, suggestions?

step 1: Don't drive the car anymore, don't even run it. If it's alreayd been significantly overheated (temp gauge over half way up) you probably already have alot of parts to replace in the motor... as in, not really useful as a core even, might be better off getting a jspec and rebuilding it.



step 2: Try and recall if the car ever smoked when you were driving it, if it did, was it white smoke?



step 3: Do a coolant pressure test, either buy the tools to do it, borrow them, or bring it somewhere (tow!) to have it done



step 4: Do a engine compression test, again don't drive it somewhere to get it done.



step 5: Depending on the results of the tests, you either have to find a coolant leak somewhere in the system that is not internal (hopefully) and repair it, hoping you have not seriously damaged your motor from the overheating. Or you need to rebuild the engine and replace the coolant O rings which seal between the housings, if it is not an external leak or other external failure in the cooling system (indicated by smoke and poor compression results in the engine compression test) this is the likely problem.



Good luck, you may want to consider ordering the 13B overhaul video by bruce turrentine, it documents much of this and can provide much insight into what is involved with these things.

How much would a jspec 13b turbo cost though? Yeah it smoked, but not the engine, it was coming out of my coolant overfill hose, not sure exactly what that means. That's why it was losing coolant also I figured, was that it was pushing all the coolant from the radiator out into the overfill res, then squirting it out of the resevoir breather tube. What would white smoke imply?



I figured out WHY it was overheating though, or atleast partly so, the guy who owned the car before me had his coolant fan sensor set ENTIRELY to low, matter of fact, it was at full temp, and the fan STILL never came on. On the way home after I fixed the fan though, I noticed that the engine no longer turns over, so I think you're right, it probably is damaged severly, and not even good as a core....



-sigh-

thats really scummy, A jspec usually goes for around a $1000.

stuck thermostat take it out and then try it ..or maybe waterpump..BUT this may of lead to other problems

Would a stuck thermo cause the engine to not start though?

I'm starting to think that the engines siezed, I mean it it won't

even turn over now, even though I can still pop the clutch.



I guess this is just the horrible end to a bad beginning.....