how much hp`s ?
#12
Anyone going to the trouble of running an aftermarket ECU should upgrade the stock turbo, IMO. You can keep the same setup and avoid the expense of a new turbo manifold and exhaust by going with a compressor side upgrade (like I did). But it's still going to be a limiting factor.
#15
Originally Posted by nismo convert' post='791630' date='Jan 3 2006, 12:05 AM
No it's not this summer I'm planning on 280 at the wheel with that little bastard. Stock turbo and ecu. I'll need a FMIC but I think it's doable.
The reason the SP will make less because the turbo can't flow enough for the street port.
yea here's hoping you dont suffer a catastrophic failure. why chance pushing that turbo to its breaking limit? youre trying to push 330+hp at the engine (to get 280 at the wheels) on a turbo that is a tad bigger then a hair dryer? What if it overheats to a snapping point, throws its internals into your motor? now you're out a motor and a turbo.
Also the heat the turbo will be generating at a boost level high enough to make that power will be completely counterproductive, unless of course you have an *awesome* IC setup, not some cheaply fabbed thingo from ebay (note: yes i do know some ebay pieces are actually very good quality)...that and the fact that the stock turbo's efficiency range probably ends around "15ish"psi..i'd imagine.
it's such an uncalled for risk, but hey to each his own. i look forward to seeing your results, and more power to ya if you do accomplish it, it's a nice goal to aim for. (seriously, not being sarcastic, i would like to see how hard and for how long someone can push that tiny turbo.)
kevin.
#17
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Yeah man I want to try the 20b twins on the 13b, crap if I blow my motor and turbo in the process I guess it has to happen. I definately think that the turbo can produce 270 at the wheels for sure, I was at 10-11 psi on the dyno and made 240, if I bump it up to 15-16psi, 270ish very doable, but I will need the FMIC.
#19
Originally Posted by nismo convert' post='792101' date='Jan 5 2006, 03:36 AM
I was at 10-11 psi on the dyno and made 240, if I bump it up to 15-16psi, 270ish very doable, but I will need the FMIC.
yes but youre failing to factor something in here.
When you switch to the FMIC your IC pipes are now longer and larger in diameter. SO now to produce the same volume of air your turbo will be worked double-time plus youre going to try to add another 4-5 psi into the equation? (and remember, what makes power is the volume, not the pressure)
I'm telling you it will be counterproductive and youll lose horsepower. The heat from a completely overworked turbo makes it useless....and somewhat dangerous.
again, more power to ya if you manage it tho.
kevin.
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No I took that into account, I'm thinking vmount, ot just vmount the IC just for the dyno run, if I can get access to a welder anything is possible. And a hood isn't a necessity.