I am putting together something, hope to have it in the store next week, just wanted to guage how many were interested in these.



These are a bit different then some of the others on the market, they are a diamond back fixture and use H4 bulbs, which gives you better lighting and makes it easier to replace spent bulbs, these also have the little "city light" where you can wire in a blue light or something, not for me but maybe someone will like that feature, you just leave it be if you don't want it.



I'm figuring $54.95 for a pair, you can pick out your bulbs at the local store or I can get PIAA's if you would like.



I'll also have the non-diamond back kits like you see pretty much everywhere else for $36.99.



I'll also have some 90/100w super white bulbs for $20 if you would rather get them all at once.

Are these an OEM replacement, so that they would work with the pop-up mechanisms, or are they meant to be fixed? If they would fit right into the pop-up casings and everything, id be pretty interested. My headlights suck right now, and going with something brighter would be great. Lemme know bout them!

It's an OEM setup, you will replace your current sealed beam light with this fixture, then a h4 bulb into the rear of the new fixture and then plug your harness into the h4 bulb as you would your current sealed beam. Your healights will work the same as always except you can buy brighter h4 bulbs and easily replace spent bulbs!

Damnit I just replaced mine https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif I wanted those too!!

Well, I just got the account set up with these guys, kinda funny they contacted me and I already have one of their setups. So I was like, Hell yea send me the info and let's do this!

Very nice figure, I paid slightly less for used ones last year. I would have gone with this was it available.



After running them for a year I have experienced a slightly hot (as in partially melted) harness plug for the headlamp. I think it's due to a bad ground? A few others in my area have reported the same problem. I have yet to tackle the issue though, it hasn't caused a problem other than visually when you look at the harness plug.

What bulbs are you running?

yeah ive seen those before on other FC's, they look very sharp.

I have them for several years, its a painless conversion

and the lighting is much better for driving

Yes. Very interested. I can't see very well at night even with the brights on. They still have the high and low beam settings right? Just straight OEM replacement you said. If so, I am interested.

You'll be using the H4 bulb, you can buy them in several configurations, you can get higher watt low and high beams, you can get the same, but bright white, that's why I decided to sell them without the bulb so you can make that choice, if they have good bulb prices, I'll stick them up in the store as well and you can decide what you want when you order them... although I doubt I will stock the bulbs.

Regular white H4s.



I think I may be just having a ground issue though.

Yea that is odd, I am running the 80/100's was thinking about going to the 90/100's, but I have not had any wiring issues and have even ran my brights for extended periods of time. Theoretically the standard h4 shouldn't be any greater draw then the sealed beams.

Oh, so you are just selling the "bulb surrounding"? On the s4 bulb surrounds, it is just one whole piece glued together and you can't change the bulb out. Real pain in the ass. But this looks like a good deal going right now.



I will buy them when you post them up on the store.

If I can get some good pricing on bulbs I will sell them as well and prolly a package, but I wanna leave it open as well so you can choose your own bulb.



The 2nd Gen headlight assembly is a sealed beam fixture and the entire assembly has to be replaced, they are also pretty pathetic in the lighting area, with this conversion you can use your choice of h4 bulbs you also get some increased lighting from the diamond backed fixture, but I honestly don't know how effective that is LOL.

any chance of carrying the hella Ecode or even US legal housing? that really all i'd trust to put in my car after doing some research into lighting a few months ago.

Yup, $80 a pair for the hella.



The ones that I am selling, like most products in the store are something I have used, I've had my set for well over a year with no issues, if I thought they were a crap product I wouldn't think about selling, but I already have an account with Hella, so those can be made available (non-inventory item) at the price metnioned above https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

If I had the money, I'd buy them. I can't see anything with my stock lamps, they suck. I use an H4 hyper blue bulb in my motorcycel, and it sure is nice. (barely looks blue at all)

I'm going to do a first gen setup too, pricing will be similar.

Can I get pulled over for these?



I keep getting pulled over for my headlights being too bright and i swear that its because my alignment is off but the cops always interrogate me if my bulbs are factory or not. Crap, i almost got a ticket for my foglights because he thought I had put them in myself and they werent "factory". So now i'm a bit paranoid that I almost got ticketed for something that the car came with.

H4 bulbs are found in thousands of cars, if you run a legal bulb then you are legal, as far as the aiming goes, I would suggest doing that when you install the new fixtures.



I believe 80/100 is the brightest legal bulb. Pretty much anything you buy at the local parts store will be legal, they don't usually sell illegal lights, it's bad for business.

So youre saying that the bulb doesn't necessarily have to be the same type that came from the "factory" and the cop was just being an *******?



If so then i'd most likely want a pair.



Anotehr quick question, do the stock headlights say sylvania halogen on the front of the glass?

Yea, it all depends on what you bought at the parts store, but the sylvania is a common replacement bulb, save your packaging if the cops are harrassing you that bad. The laws go by wattage, not by the brand.

It's not on the bulbs, its the headlight itself.

Here ya go, tossed out some bulb options as well in case you want to get everything from one place. All are in pairs and without bulbs except for the Hella's, they include bulbs. Pricing came out as expected.



Link to 2nd Gen Lighting

I've never heard that before, all of the laws that I am aware are based on wattage of the bulb, I'll have to check mine, but I don't think they say anything on the lense.

The prior owner of my car put the conversion on. I love the amount of light they put off the only thing that sucks is that it says APC on the headlight.

Of course it is because it's a sealbeam headlamp. MANY cars use sealbeam headlamps, they are interchangeable. The bulb is intergrated into the housing. The BULB WATTAGE is what the law is about, not the lense, just so happens our bulbs are permanently mounted to the lense+housing.



Coverting the H4 acceptable headlamp housings will mean that you separate bulb from housing, so the laws still apply to bulb wattage. Just when you change the light it's the bulb only not the housing.



There aren't any laws on lense+housing as long as they are not tinted housings. As far as aiming goes that's the drivers responsibility not the manufacturers fault.

mine say DOT APPROVED right on the bulb

I ordered a set for my Jeep today, maybe I will actually be able to see out of the fucker at night.



and no, they won't say APC on them. These are manufactured by IPCW and great quality.

Thx colin.

"""I'm figuring $54.95 for a pair, you can pick out your bulbs at the local store or I can get PIAA's if you would like.



I'll also have the non-diamond back kits like you see pretty much everywhere else for $36.99.



I'll also have some 90/100w super white bulbs for $20 if you would rather get them all at once."""



not trying to bust anything up but there on ebay for $36.97 shipped with a set of lights. you should call who ever your getting them from and see if they can lower there prices to you...~~>rite here https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

There ya go, I'm sure those are top quility https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png and no I am not going to call a vendor and tell them there is some ebay junk for a little less could you sell me your quality product for the same price LOL As we already discussed you get what you pay for, buy those off ebay, give me a call when they melt and you need a decent set to replce them https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Is there a wiring kit with a relay for the higher wattage bulbs, or do we just toss one together? It seems like without a relay, the additional wattage may have a negative impact on the headlamp switch, which is already at it's limits in most cases.

I'd recommend a relay if you are going to run the high wattage bulbs. To be honest I had planned on getting one when I did mine, but I ended up just tossing them in and rolling with them, that was about a year ago LOL, I am running 80/100, but it's definetely something I would consider on anything over stock.

I ran the stock H4 bulbs for a year.. Like I was saying the only problem I had was a slightly hot harness plug but I think that was due to a bad ground.



I don't know if the regular H4s are higher wattage than DOT sealbeams.

The DOT h4's run the same voltage as the stockers, although there are tons of different options available for h4 replacement.

If I was to get the diamond back headlamps with a pair of the hella optilux H4s would there be any problem on a completely stock lighting system? Cause they look pretty sweet and I want em! LOL https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/bigthumb.gif

The hella lights are actually only 55 watt, they claim to be 50 brighter with their Optilux technology, you should be good to go on stock wiring.

**** ME! Well I called to place the first order today and they told me 8 to 12 weeks! WTF is up with that? I don't think I am going to carry those afterall, my distributor has the Hella's so those are still available, there was only one person who ordered so I'll make it up to them https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



I feel like an retard for getting the deal going and not asking the guy how far out they were, I just assumed the stocked the ****. Bastards.