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The Goal, 170whp N/A

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Old 05-14-2007, 05:06 PM
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Tweakit is a good spot for the ITBs..others offer them, but they are more money for the same quality IMO.



As for the whole discussion - rowtareh says it - its opinion, would i race on a bunch of used stock parts i rigged up on my NA engine - hell no, I've been on the track to long and seen too many let downs because you didnt go the extra mile (or $1K).





Race whatever you want, but eventually - real power and real reliability means doing it right. I did it wrong for many years and paid a hefty price, I'll never go back...



BTW - s4 stock boost isnt 8psi, just an FYI...
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Old 05-14-2007, 09:43 PM
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180 flywheel hp shouldn't be too hard I hope .... lol
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Old 05-15-2007, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Rotary_Engaged' post='871825' date='May 14 2007, 07:43 PM

180 flywheel hp shouldn't be too hard I hope .... lol


no its not. we did 170+ rear wheel with the following setup:



s5 na block (stock, as per the rules)

s5 na intakes

custom header into 3" exhaust (i think its overkill, 2.5" should work)

haltech e6x

msd 6a on leading



on the stock ecu we were down under 10PEAK hp ,BUT the haltech gives you a much broader power band, from 3500-5500 stock ecu is down like 20hp, and over 6500 the stock ecu drops off where the haltech doesnt. also the haltech gives us enough better mileage that we didnt need the 3rd pitstop anymore
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Old 05-15-2007, 02:21 PM
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Really?! wow! I guess the key peice in extracting the most from the engine is the Engine Management system. Which is the most user friendly, and straight forward in instlation?
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im in the middle of my S4 NA 170whp build here is my take ...there is a s5 NA w/ 170whp around where i live so an S4 wont be much off ...do the exhaust, ect ...stuff you mentioned and get a good EMS...tuned right should be able to pull it off....im making 161whp on my full exhaust RB headers, custom catback no cats..., reworked ignition (bigger wires ect) 11lbs flywheel ...good XTD clutch ..synethic everything ...custom intake ...no emissions...and a SAFC...i just need a few more horses then im done its a quick little car now ...i dropped some dead weight and run 14s at the quarter mile...although i hardly ever keep the car straight ...DRIFT
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Originally Posted by Rotary_Engaged' post='871894
Hers is my take, wether you want to extract as much HP as possible from a NA, or want to go turbo; your best investment will be a stand alone ecu (microtech\haltech\Wolf).



Put your $$$ there, the sky will be your limit aftewards...








BTW - The best stand alone ECU will be the one that your tuner works\tunes.
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Originally Posted by knonfs' post='871988' date='May 16 2007, 10:43 AM





BTW - The best stand alone ECU will be the one that your tuner works\tunes.
Hey you did post solide numbers But thanks I'll take your advice.
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Originally Posted by Rotary_Engaged' post='872046' date='May 16 2007, 07:17 PM

Hey you did post solide numbers But thanks I'll take your advice.




You can actually go higher than that; if you go with a ITB\Holley style TB (and its matching intake manifold)
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:30 PM
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A very good upgrade for any n/a guy is a 4.30 rear end with LSD. Also if you are looking for cheating n/a power to an electric supercharger from e-ram. If i had the extra $500 laying around I'd do it.
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Hal9000 has a 4.30 rear end that he is selling/trading so someone should swoop that up because it makes a big difference, but thats just my 2 cents.
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