Gauging interest: n/a turbo kit
11-21-2005, 08:07 AM
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I real conversion, that will not leave you stranded on the side of the road, will be well over $2K.
GTU rear won't work for the swap, unless you want to use all NA driveline, which is a terrible idea. The flange on the NA rears are much smaller than a T2's driveshaft flange. You could use a T2 tranny and driveshaft with the NA rear/halfshafts, but you would have to mill out the bolt holes for the T2 ds to bolt to the NA rear, which would leave maybe an eighth of an inch of metal on the outside, very weak.
Using a used block, used harness and ecu are dangerous as well since most of the parts will be over 15 years old. During my swap, I got a trashed motor for $1000 "JDM"...had warranty and all, but at the end of the day, I only got $170 back for it. I paid $150 for my tranny with $12,000 miles on a rebuild, it seems to be in good shape..so that's a plus. The rear end was $150, halfshafts were $125, driveshaft was $100, got a new motor for $3400. If you swap a S5 motor into the S4 cars, and dont intend on going standalone, you'll need to either get a chassis/dash harness and gauge cluster (which is what I did for $250) or go through mindless splicing. The S5 and S4 ECUs are not compatible with the interior. On top of all that, it was a waste because now I'm standalone, so yea..my overall swap alone was about $4k to $8k depending how you look at it. I easily wasted $2K on botched parts and going back and redoing things the RIGHT way...so be warned on those cheaper parts.
GTU rear won't work for the swap, unless you want to use all NA driveline, which is a terrible idea. The flange on the NA rears are much smaller than a T2's driveshaft flange. You could use a T2 tranny and driveshaft with the NA rear/halfshafts, but you would have to mill out the bolt holes for the T2 ds to bolt to the NA rear, which would leave maybe an eighth of an inch of metal on the outside, very weak.
Using a used block, used harness and ecu are dangerous as well since most of the parts will be over 15 years old. During my swap, I got a trashed motor for $1000 "JDM"...had warranty and all, but at the end of the day, I only got $170 back for it. I paid $150 for my tranny with $12,000 miles on a rebuild, it seems to be in good shape..so that's a plus. The rear end was $150, halfshafts were $125, driveshaft was $100, got a new motor for $3400. If you swap a S5 motor into the S4 cars, and dont intend on going standalone, you'll need to either get a chassis/dash harness and gauge cluster (which is what I did for $250) or go through mindless splicing. The S5 and S4 ECUs are not compatible with the interior. On top of all that, it was a waste because now I'm standalone, so yea..my overall swap alone was about $4k to $8k depending how you look at it. I easily wasted $2K on botched parts and going back and redoing things the RIGHT way...so be warned on those cheaper parts.
11-21-2005, 08:10 AM
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Lol, sorry revvin for jacking the thread...
...back to your topic, I do think if you could make a LIM that would clear the T2 turbo and manifold setup, that would be awesome, that would sell really well...
If you made an NA version, you could also make a T2 version allowing FC owners to use most FD bolt-on T4 turbo kits... opening a wide range of turbo upgrades for FC owners...
...back to your topic, I do think if you could make a LIM that would clear the T2 turbo and manifold setup, that would be awesome, that would sell really well...
If you made an NA version, you could also make a T2 version allowing FC owners to use most FD bolt-on T4 turbo kits... opening a wide range of turbo upgrades for FC owners...
11-21-2005, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by One320B' post='779984' date='Nov 19 2005, 03:09 PM
Secondly, not to bash or anything, but it is VERY dangerous to offer up a "low-budget" aka "low quality" turbo kit that will more than likely result in many a blown engine. This will cause most to have ill thoughts towards you and your kits.
"Low budget" does not always mean "low quality" A lot of fc owners are cheap, or on low budgets, and cant afford expensive setups. I think 1revvin7's goal here is to make the best quality kit that is in the average fc owners price range.
That being said it isnt even worth the time to do the R&D on this kit unless a market that is willing to pay for it has been established.IMO
11-21-2005, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by One320B' post='780254' date='Nov 21 2005, 10:10 AM
Lol, sorry revvin for jacking the thread...
...back to your topic, I do think if you could make a LIM that would clear the T2 turbo and manifold setup, that would be awesome, that would sell really well...
If you made an NA version, you could also make a T2 version allowing FC owners to use most FD bolt-on T4 turbo kits... opening a wide range of turbo upgrades for FC owners...
**** most FC owners can even afford to run the stock turbo. It really is a waste of time catering to Rx-7 owners, I'm going to work my way into other cars...
11-22-2005, 08:19 AM
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I agree, most FC owners can't afford much..thus the FC part...but there are some people (myself included) who would much rather build an FC then an FD...I enjoy the FC just a little bit more. An FD is a fun daily driver/weekend strip car...but if I'm going to tear an entire car apart and build it from the ground up, I'd rather do an FC..
What other cars will you move into...the lambos? Purchase an FD and start doing things for those, at least there is a good market on that end...and it's still rotary.
What other cars will you move into...the lambos? Purchase an FD and start doing things for those, at least there is a good market on that end...and it's still rotary.
11-22-2005, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by One320B' post='780568' date='Nov 22 2005, 06:19 AM
I agree, most FC owners can't afford much..thus the FC part...but there are some people (myself included) who would much rather build an FC then an FD...I enjoy the FC just a little bit more. An FD is a fun daily driver/weekend strip car...but if I'm going to tear an entire car apart and build it from the ground up, I'd rather do an FC..
What other cars will you move into...the lambos? Purchase an FD and start doing things for those, at least there is a good market on that end...and it's still rotary.
fd market is dieing too.
11-22-2005, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 86fc3sMatt' post='780047' date='Nov 20 2005, 01:33 AM
what?! are you nuts? a 13bt turbo swap with computer, rear end, and comp. for $2,000!!!! i dont think soo more like 3 to 4 grand and above
my stuff was roughly that
well minus the engine rebuild
11-22-2005, 08:16 PM
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I am planning on turboing my n/a and i will be glad to buy a spacer. email me wade_carter89@yahoo.com
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