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RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ 11-13-2003 09:46 PM

Did it yesterday stock belts and all. Only thing is you have to find a bolt and nut that will fit thourgh the tensioning bracket and boom you can use everything else as far as hardware and to wire it up it is splice and twist job.



Crusing around with nothing on im getting 15.3 volts. With Lights, Ac, & Wipers on low im getting 14.1 idel 14.9 moving. With stereo on I get around 13.5 but with the bass low. This is the mose cost effective alternator upgrade out there My reccomends to all S4 owners. Look at the pics



Check up the upgraded cables.



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teknics 11-13-2003 10:00 PM

are your belts on upside down? does it matter? cause mine are opposite of yours.



kevin.

RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ 11-13-2003 10:04 PM

I thought they where wronge to but no the v part of the belt is to the bottom. they are dayco top cog belts wating for the gatorback I ordered online.



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif FD Alternator https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif

teknics 11-13-2003 11:10 PM

hmm i think mine are upside down then, guess i should fix that.



kevin.

Nemesis 11-13-2003 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Nov 13 2003, 11:10 PM
hmm i think mine are upside down then, guess i should fix that.



kevin.

Aren't you taking the ASE test??? Shouldn't you know by now which way is proper for the belts to be installed????

RONIN FC 11-13-2003 11:18 PM

Nice. Does that alt. come in any other cars?

Did you get yours new? Where did you get the connector?

racerxtreme7 11-14-2003 01:53 AM

not bad very clean and easy just the way i like it

RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ 11-14-2003 06:35 AM

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RONIN FC Posted on Nov 13 2003, 09:18 PM

Nice. Does that alt. come in any other cars?

Did you get yours new? Where did you get the connector?
Thanks, Nope, Yep, The guy I bought it from sent it with the alt.



It was easy as taking a dump after getting exlax poured into your latte LOL.



The guy I bought it from Silverrotor on the "evil" board was running a deal I got it new for $165 Shipped. It came with the connector but it must have fallen off the alternator and got a lil banged up. 40% of the out side plastic and 1 inner conectors plastic was damaged. Still worked though https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif



The only part that I was like damn I am not going to be able to put it in today was the top bolt but I found an adequate replacement. check the pic

teknics 11-14-2003 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Nemesis' date='Nov 14 2003, 12:12 AM
[quote name='teknics' date='Nov 13 2003, 11:10 PM'] hmm i think mine are upside down then, guess i should fix that.



kevin.

Aren't you taking the ASE test??? Shouldn't you know by now which way is proper for the belts to be installed???? [/quote]

well its how my car came and i simply assumed thats how it was supposed to be, never bothered to take a closer look at the belts themselves.



kevin.

Baldy 11-14-2003 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Nov 14 2003, 05:01 PM
[quote name='Nemesis' date='Nov 14 2003, 12:12 AM'] [quote name='teknics' date='Nov 13 2003, 11:10 PM'] hmm i think mine are upside down then, guess i should fix that.



kevin.

Aren't you taking the ASE test??? Shouldn't you know by now which way is proper for the belts to be installed???? [/quote]

well its how my car came and i simply assumed thats how it was supposed to be, never bothered to take a closer look at the belts themselves.



kevin. [/quote]

how do you know his are on backwards? if you're talking about the notches, some are on the inside of the belt, whereas some are on the outside...I have the same belts he has, with the notched flat side outside, and the solid V on the inside...I previously had one that had a notched V on the inside, and a smooth flat outside



make sense?

FCmaniac 11-14-2003 03:25 PM

I've seen both but Dayco top cog belts all have the notches on the outside

pengaru 11-14-2003 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by FCmaniac' date='Nov 14 2003, 09:25 PM
I've seen both but Dayco top cog belts all have the notches on the outside

I think they have cogs on both sides.



dayco top cog

Baldy 11-14-2003 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by pengaru' date='Nov 14 2003, 05:30 PM
I think they have cogs on both sides.



dayco top cog

those apparently are the gold label ones, mine are dayco top cog, but only have notches on the outside

ZenRXSeven 11-14-2003 04:03 PM

I've got an FD alt too, also from Silverrotor... and my connector was chipped too... hmmm... Anyway, there's pics of it on my car in the "ZenRXSeven's TII" thread, lol. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/happy.png

pengaru 11-14-2003 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Nov 14 2003, 09:40 PM
[quote name='pengaru' date='Nov 14 2003, 05:30 PM'] I think they have cogs on both sides.



dayco top cog

those apparently are the gold label ones, mine are dayco top cog, but only have notches on the outside [/quote]

you should have got the pimp gold ones!



hah i don't know, whatever i've seen tons of pics of those belts on like that

teknics 11-15-2003 12:35 AM

no, im not saying his are on backwards, i was asking if they're all supposed to be like his cause i know mine are the opposite way.



he says he has a v-groove on that bottom part, i checked mine and the flat part of mine isn't vgrooved and wouldnt fit in my alternator pulley if i flipped it upside down anyway, so i assume mine is a cog-downward design or something.



kevin.

RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ 11-15-2003 02:42 AM

there are cod downward belts napa sells them really cheap those are the best type of V belts the coged ones. Esppecially the good year gatorbacks (In shipping to me LOL)

relisys190 11-15-2003 12:00 PM

Dayco belts = The ****!!! really good quality belts for a cheap price.

Silverrotor i guess i need to break down and get an FD alt from you. There's nothing wrong with my current S4 Alt. but still.



Soon man. maybe next week or something. Do you include dual alt pullys? also, the Alt is just "plug and play" correct? Thanks man.



P.S RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ // how do you like the Alt.?



-Markus

RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ 11-15-2003 07:55 PM

The alt is kick ass ! ! !

crusing im getting 15.3 V W/ Lights and AC cant beat that. But I think Silverrotor ran out of them and he is not on this board he is on the "evil" forum. He might still have a couple hey you are in key largo im in miami springs, we need to have a dirty south Rotor fest LOL https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

Scott 89t2 11-16-2003 02:06 AM

ummm 15+ volts?? it shouldn't be over 14.4....

Rob x-7 11-16-2003 11:27 AM

I order my belts from the dealer or from MazdaTrix, they arent

that much money and I have had the set on my car for like 6 years now.

RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ 11-16-2003 11:53 AM

Well my Digital Capactior Has a voltage read out on top that I can see refelecting off my rear view mirror and crusing I see 15.3at around 1000 rpm it dosent go over that. I must be getting some sick amperage huh LOL.

pengaru 11-16-2003 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ' date='Nov 16 2003, 05:53 PM
Well my Digital Capactior Has a voltage read out on top that I can see refelecting off my rear view mirror and crusing I see 15.3at around 1000 rpm it dosent go over that. I must be getting some sick amperage huh LOL.

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

Rob x-7 11-16-2003 12:07 PM

thats some mad amps yo



fo shizzle yo wizzle

RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ 11-17-2003 09:46 PM

whats up with the rolling eyes pengaru? Dont belive me ill get a pic tomorrow. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

Leetheslacker 11-17-2003 10:31 PM

I have a feeling he thinks over 14.4 is BAD, which it probably is. And that you farked something.

RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ 11-19-2003 10:23 AM

well if over 14.4 is bad the I dont want to be right LOL.



You guys really think something is fucked? I double checked everything and everything is fine. I Dunno

DaddyMac 11-29-2003 04:06 PM

for you dorks about asking about the belts being inside-out (upside down https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif). the writing goes on the outside part https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/violin.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif



if teknics was just joking trying to get a rise of the kid with the new alt. it's all good. but if in all seriousness thought that of the belts and has plans for ASE it is no wonder why so many dumbasses are "mechanics".



bottom line: if the damn thing isn't slipping it is ok https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683621.gif

DaddyMac 11-29-2003 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ' date='Nov 19 2003, 11:23 AM
well if over 14.4 is bad the I dont want to be right LOL.



You guys really think something is fucked? I double checked everything and everything is fine. I Dunno

you could be overcharging your system which will cause your battery to explode for starters.



it is not like having a midget hanging from your necklace https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

Leetheslacker 11-29-2003 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by DaddyMac' date='Nov 29 2003, 06:08 PM
[quote name='RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ' date='Nov 19 2003, 11:23 AM'] well if over 14.4 is bad the I dont want to be right LOL.



You guys really think something is fucked? I double checked everything and everything is fine. I Dunno

it is not like having a midget hanging from your necklace https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif [/quote]

https://www.nopistons.com/~turboii/a...fd8465ab32.gif

DaddyMac 11-29-2003 04:31 PM

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif x 5674568745

ZenRXSeven 11-29-2003 06:13 PM

I think 14.4v is normal for a 12v system undergoing charge.

NCRX791 12-01-2003 04:05 PM

I don't understand quite so much why putting the FD alternator in an FC is such a big deal. I mean I would do it...but I would do it just due to the fact that FD's are gods and it would be a nice mod......so does anyone wanna explain...is it just more voltage or just to do it?

teknics 12-01-2003 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by NCRX791' date='Dec 1 2003, 05:05 PM
I don't understand quite so much why putting the FD alternator in an FC is such a big deal. I mean I would do it...but I would do it just due to the fact that FD's are gods and it would be a nice mod......so does anyone wanna explain...is it just more voltage or just to do it?

ok take me for instance. i haver a 10" bazooka tube with a small amp running it, a head unit, and an e-fan.



my current FC alternator can barely support those simple little things, god forbid i put the heat, windshield wipers and headlights on.



the fd alt meanwhile puts out like i think 120-130amps which would handle all of that relatively easily. I think the FC alt is rated at 70-80amps or something.



if you have a pure track car where the only thing you got the alternator for is to recharge the battery and run the electronics, no head unit, sub, headlights etc, then the stocker is fnie.



kevin.

teknics 12-01-2003 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by DaddyMac' date='Nov 29 2003, 05:06 PM
for you dorks about asking about the belts being inside-out (upside down https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif). the writing goes on the outside part https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/violin.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif



if teknics was just joking trying to get a rise of the kid with the new alt. it's all good. but if in all seriousness thought that of the belts and has plans for ASE it is no wonder why so many dumbasses are "mechanics".



bottom line: if the damn thing isn't slipping it is ok https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683621.gif

well lets see, yuou say writing goes on outside right?



it seems that of the 8 ASE Master Techs i asked at my school, none of them agreed with you. they all said that my belts were on properly (aka cogs facing outward) and said it all depends on the belt, there isn't a standard. Hell the cogged part of my belt doesnt even fit into the grooves on the pulley, the part that has text written on it on the other hand is contoured to fit the groove.



you must be the reason everyone thinks they know more then mechanics, then they blow their **** up and haul it to our shops.



kevin.

Nemesis 12-01-2003 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Dec 1 2003, 04:19 PM
well lets see, yuou say writing goes on outside right?



it seems that of the 8 ASE Master Techs i asked at my school, none of them agreed with you. they all said that my belts were on properly (aka cogs facing outward) and said it all depends on the belt, there isn't a standard. Hell the cogged part of my belt doesnt even fit into the grooves on the pulley, the part that has text written on it on the other hand is contoured to fit the groove.



you must be the reason everyone thinks they know more then mechanics, then they blow their **** up and haul it to our shops.



kevin.

You had to ask 8 "master" mechanics if your belt was on right??? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



How many "master" mechanics does it take to put on an alt belt these days anyway???

Rob x-7 12-01-2003 06:15 PM

you sure you have the right belts on your car teknics?

being a ASE certified or whatever you should know belts come in

different widths as well as lengths, maybe you dont have the right

widths on your car?



you would think the master mechanics would have questioned why

they arent in the grooves of the pulleys?



and I dont see the big deal about the FD alternators either, why pay for

a used alternator, then have to make it fit, when you can take your FC

alternator to a local rebuilder and have them upgrade it for you. Hell, they will even give you a warranty with it.

Apex13B 12-01-2003 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Dec 1 2003, 07:15 PM
you sure you have the right belts on your car teknics?

being a ASE certified or whatever you should know belts come in

different widths as well as lengths, maybe you dont have the right

widths on your car?



you would think the master mechanics would have questioned why

they arent in the grooves of the pulleys?



and I dont see the big deal about the FD alternators either, why pay for

a used alternator, then have to make it fit, when you can take your FC

alternator to a local rebuilder and have them upgrade it for you. Hell, they will even give you a warranty with it.

it cost me $90 for a rebuild and upgrade and the alternator makes 100+ amps. Its a year old and 40,000 miles later and still fine





As per the belt arguement, shut the **** up all of you. Its a V-belt and only fits in the pulley one ****** way. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

DaddyMac 12-02-2003 10:09 AM

teknics, you are just digging yourself into a hole right now.

teknics 12-02-2003 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by DaddyMac' date='Dec 2 2003, 11:09 AM
teknics, you are just digging yourself into a hole right now.

well it snowed todasy so it filled in my hole? guess i should start digging again huh?



sorry but im perturbed by this proverbial "hole" you're talking abuot, are you somehow referring to the internet somehow impacting my real life? if so, jolly good show mate, top o' the morning.



kevin.


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