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Old 10-10-2002, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sleeperRX7' date='Oct 9 2002, 01:05 PM
how well does a 2nd gen run without the egr on? say i take it off and put on a block off plate for it? i get really bored around here besides i wanna paint my intake manifold anyways :twisted:
It runs fine. YOu can take it off and save it for next tme you need. It will keep the rubber diagraph from getting old and brittle.



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Old 10-10-2002, 10:45 AM
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Man, I love not having to do inspections. If they did that here, half the cars would be off the road.
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Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Oct 10 2002, 11:45 AM
Man, I love not having to do inspections. If they did that here, half the cars would be off the road.
really, that's cool. Must be a way to control population down there, all those geezers do there and all. :smirk:
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how did they test the egr valve? if you apply vacuum to it, it will not make the car idle rough or stall like a piston engine. if it didn't hold vaccum then it is bad



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Old 10-10-2002, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by alton316' date='Oct 9 2002, 10:07 AM
[quote name='1Revvin7' date='Oct 9 2002, 12:40 PM'][quote name='alton316' date='Oct 9 2002, 12:22 AM'][quote name='dac' date='Oct 9 2002, 04:36 AM']Hopefully it's just the valve isn't working and the path isn't clogged with carbon. Before you go through all the work, connect the EGR vacuum line to a hand pump (or good vac source on your manifold). It the EGR valve is working it will cause your motor to stall as it lets exhaust into the combustion chamber (not good for performance, but it reduces emissions on deceleration and actually reduces combustion chamber temps).



Less than a dozen bolts to pull the upper manifold. It's right underneath it.



What did you fail NoX ?
no not nox.

actually it passed the visual inspection, passed the emissions test,

passed everything except EGR (functional).

the results for the idle emission test were:

HC (PPM) measured 30, the max allowed is 120.

CO (%) measured 0.04, the max allowed is 1.00.

so you can see the emmisions are well withen passing range.



i will try to located a used EGR valve, then when i get ready to change

it maybe someone can walk me through the prosses .

thanks.[/quote]

i had a feeling it wouldn't make u fail. There is somone on the other forum selling a new one for $120. Put it probably still works just clogged, mine was so clogged when i took it off.[/quote]

No maybe you misunderstood It did make me fail.[/quote]

U just failed because it doesn't work, what i meant was it doesn't cause your car to pollute. but how did they test it?
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they trying to jack that guy for some money. i hate shady *** car shops
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Old 10-12-2002, 05:29 PM
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I dont know how they tested it, does anyone know of any addetivies that

i can put in they might help clean out some of the carbon?

If so maybe i can give it a try before i tear it apart.
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Originally Posted by alton316' date='Oct 12 2002, 02:29 PM
I dont know how they tested it, does anyone know of any addetivies that

i can put in they might help clean out some of the carbon?

If so maybe i can give it a try before i tear it apart.
the egr valve is just there for decoration, it doesn't matter if you clean it out or not. all it has to do is hold vacuum. find an online shop manual and print the page



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Originally Posted by alton316' date='Oct 12 2002, 10:29 PM
I dont know how they tested it, does anyone know of any addetivies that

i can put in they might help clean out some of the carbon?

If so maybe i can give it a try before i tear it apart.
No additives will help if it's clogged. It is outside of the combustion chamber. The only thing that runs throught it is exhaust which is thick black carbon. My honda wouldn't pass due to the EGR and it was fully blocked. I put chucked up a CHOKE CABLE to the end of my drill (ala: rotor rooter style) and fed it down the EGR hole until I got it cleaned out.



I never have understood the Mazda EGR, because it is on TOP of the motor. So I'm not sure where it gets it's Exhaust from to feed into the intake.



FROM THE NET:

EGR has been successful in reducing NOx in gasoline engines. When an engine uses EGR, a percentage of the exhaust gases are drawn or forced back into the intake, at the direction of the engine's electronic control module (ECM), and mixed with the fresh air and fuel the engine is ingesting.



The purpose of using EGR is to lower the peak flame temperatures inside the combustion chamber. Forcing some exhaust back into the cylinder slightly reduces the concentration of oxygen and slows the burning a bit, making things a little cooler. EGR also absorbs heat, further cooling the process.
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from what the guy at the smog shop say's,

it doesnt hold a vacum.
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