i just test drove a 2nd gen with a rebuilt S4 motor and compared to my talon its soooooo slow https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png is there anyway i could get say 60HP decently cheap? i think if i could get around 50-60 hp for cheap i'd be happy with it and consider buying it...

nitrous

dont trust it, i mean actual useable power, i dont want to go turbo or anything, i just want like 50HP extra and i'd be happy, i dont want to have to take the motor apart at all because its been recently rebuilt

a full exhaust and a fuel cut defencer will get you that jump start on 60 hp , add in a little extra boost and fuel and there you have it .

Why not tear the motor apart? If it's been recently rebuilt (assuming that whoever did it knew what they were doing) then the housings should still be good, so you wouldn't have to worry about that $1000 price tag. Besides, thats the only way you're gonna see an extra 50-60hp with an n/a.



Edit: lol, is the car n/a or turbo?

[quote name='nightwolf_4_98' date='May 2 2005, 12:24 AM']dont trust it, i mean actual useable power, i dont want to go turbo or anything, i just want like 50HP extra and i'd be happy, i dont want to have to take the motor apart at all because its been recently rebuilt


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without porting, its gonna be really difficult to get 50 extra hp...

[quote name='fc3sboy1' date='May 2 2005, 05:06 AM']a full exhaust and a fuel cut defencer will get you that jump start on 60 hp , add in a little extra boost and fuel and there you have it .


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its an n/a

[quote name='ZenRXSeven' date='May 2 2005, 05:09 AM']Why not tear the motor apart? If it's been recently rebuilt (assuming that whoever did it knew what they were doing) then the housings should still be good, so you wouldn't have to worry about that $1000 price tag. Besides, thats the only way you're gonna see an extra 50-60hp with an n/a.



Edit: lol, is the car n/a or turbo?


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i dont want to tear the motor apart because i dont have the time or the money for that right now, later down the road i'll have no problem with it.. im trying to go N/A that way i can buy regular gas, premium is killin me with the talon and it'd be even worse in a RX-7 https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png

Stock ecu and rotaries are not easy on the gas tank. Get a 4 cyl if you want gas mileage.

It takes money and knowledge to get over 200hp on a na.

Best to just find a TII. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

well kahren is close to getting 200rwhp from a stock motor, i think by using a standalone and playing with runner lenghts.

But tuning using the runners it using knowledge, most people wouldn't be able to do that properly. Not to mention tuned runners only help over a narrow RPMband.

New intake mani and a haltech.

[quote name='nightwolf_4_98' date='May 2 2005, 12:44 PM']premium is killin me with the talon and it'd be even worse in a RX-7 https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png


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You dont need premium in an N/A, its actually recommended that you dont put premium in it.

You hoesntly cant afford the $3 diffrence per fill up between premium and regular?

[quote name='psyclo' date='May 3 2005, 04:55 PM']You hoesntly cant afford the $3 diffrence per fill up between premium and regular?


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i never said i was going premium in a n/a....... why would i do that? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png i was talking about a TII that would suck with premium.. and no i honestly cant, i take can's back right now for gas money

Not telling you how to live but then maybe a sports car is not a priority?

[quote name='psyclo' date='May 3 2005, 08:04 PM']Not telling you how to live but then maybe a sports car is not a priority?


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no its not a priority, i found one for cheap and i couldnt find anything else i liked in the price range i have, so i want a car i can be decently happy with

[quote name='nightwolf_4_98' date='May 3 2005, 08:48 PM']no its not a priority, i found one for cheap and i couldnt find anything else i liked in the price range i have, so i want a car i can be decently happy with


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disregard this topic, found a car im gonna jump on, a datsun 260Z with a 350 small block swapped in https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

[quote name='nightwolf_4_98' date='May 4 2005, 01:16 AM']disregard this topic, found a car im gonna jump on, a datsun 260Z with a 350 small block swapped in https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif


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thats a fuel saver right there!

You can now hang out with the Prius and Insight crew



on a serious note, if your taking cans back for gas money, maybe get a reliable fuel efficient car.

[quote name='Rob x-7' date='May 4 2005, 04:53 AM']thats a fuel saver right there!

You can now hang out with the Prius and Insight crew



on a serious note, if your taking cans back for gas money, maybe get a reliable fuel efficient car.


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yeah, why do you need a fast car anyway? if you go fast youll get a ticket and that will cost you more money

[quote name='psyclo' date='May 3 2005, 04:55 PM']You hoesntly cant afford the $3 diffrence per fill up between premium and regular?


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That starts adding up after a while. Especially with how expensive gas has been getting lately.

[quote name='Shane.Trammell' date='May 4 2005, 08:13 AM']yeah, why do you need a fast car anyway? if you go fast youll get a ticket and that will cost you more money


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been there, still there, i just want somethin im gonna be happy in, and im not gonna be happy in some stupid like 89 HP grocery getter, the 260 will get approx 24MPG if im careful on the pedal, and i can run the shittiest gas in the world thru it and it'll never complain, so i cant complain either..



on a positive rotary note, i may have enough left over to buy a proj RX and start learnin to build my own motors https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/happy.png

old small blocks tend to run only on premium, unless its some real low compression smog era small block, otherwise you may need to adjust the timing and carb to run on cheapo fuel.

around here the difference between a 16 gallon fill up on regular and premium is 7 dollars.

[quote name='Rob x-7' date='May 4 2005, 05:33 PM']old small blocks tend to run only on premium, unless its some real low compression smog era small block, otherwise you may need to adjust the timing and carb to run on cheapo fuel.


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My friend built up a bigblock and it runs on 87.

then your friend has lower compression heads and pistons and doesnt run much timing as well