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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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Yesterday I did some shopping for a jspec engine. I tested compression on about 5 or 6 engines and there was no ones that had more than 60 psi. I guess something is wrong. I know that jspec engine are not always in good shape, but I think it's impossible there was not at least one good. Maybe I didn't did the compression test right. I put some oil in the engine, WOT, cranked with the starter. I tried with 2 different testers (not mazda tester) with removed check valve.



I tested a 13B-re which I'm very interested in and it had 0-0-0 on read rotor. When I say 0, it's 0 the needle didn't move at all. I said to myself, maybe the seals are just stuck... What do you think ? Is it possible ?



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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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If you put oil in the engine while cranking that raises compression . You are suppose to have the engine dry. 0-0-0 sounds like the seals are gone and the rear housing is probably trashed, along with the rotor too. Take off the exhaust manifold and look inside the exhaust ports. Turn the engine with a rachet and look at the apex seals to verify if they are still there.
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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stuck is possible but unlikely. if its 0-0-0 then you should consider it a rebuild core
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Feb 21 2004, 11:08 AM
If you put oil in the engine while cranking that raises compression . You are suppose to have the engine dry. 0-0-0 sounds like the seals are gone and the rear housing is probably trashed, along with the rotor too. Take off the exhaust manifold and look inside the exhaust ports. Turn the engine with a rachet and look at the apex seals to verify if they are still there.
Is it possible to look inside the spark plug hole instead and check with a screw driver if the apex seals still on the rotor ?



It would be least complicated than removed the twins and the exhaust manifold.



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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FD3S_wanted' date='Feb 21 2004, 04:29 PM
Is it possible to look inside the spark plug hole instead and check with a screw driver if the apex seals still on the rotor ?



It would be least complicated than removed the twins and the exhaust manifold.



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I suppose but you can't see cracks or missing chucks of the apex seal where the spark plug hole doesn't allow you to see...
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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Yea that's true. I think I really should take off that exhaust manifold...
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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Also if apex seals are gone probably the turbine wheels are going to be damaged ??
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FD3S_wanted' date='Feb 21 2004, 08:17 PM
Also if apex seals are gone probably the turbine wheels are going to be damaged ??
Possibly, but sometimes not. Just take the exhaust off
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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Thanks, I will do what I have to do.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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yes take off the exh. its a pain but you can see so much more. and get a better idea of what kind of ware is on the engine...I took my 13b-re manifold off. I found that my engine was in very good shape. looked like very little ware on the apex seals. and the copper gasket was almost new. almost no carbon very clean.



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