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Old 01-09-2004, 03:02 PM
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I need new brakes, the whole deal. New rotars, pads and front calipers. What brand do you guys recommend where could i get them? I need these brakes to fit under the stock 15" wheels. Any help would be appreciated. thanks
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Old 01-09-2004, 03:29 PM
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S5 turboII or gxl brakes.

i believe both were 4 piston calipers all the way around.



http://www.mazdatrix.com/j-1brake.htm
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Old 01-09-2004, 03:39 PM
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and hawk pads, they seem to be the popular choice. Might as well get some SS lines while you're at it. If you're moving from single piston front calipers to the 4-piston, be sure to also get the appropriate booster and proportioning valve, as I found out the hard way.
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Old 01-09-2004, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by donhayes' date='Jan 9 2004, 01:02 PM
I need new brakes, the whole deal. New rotars, pads and front calipers. What brand do you guys recommend where could i get them? I need these brakes to fit under the stock 15" wheels. Any help would be appreciated. thanks
Ok I just got all my brake stuff for my 86' GXL so I will share.



I bought rebuild kits from mazdatrix for the front calipers (4 piston GXL models). This costed 30 dollars for both calipers as opposed to $150-386 a piece for remans or new calipers.



I bought the rebuild kits for the rear (1 piston all models) from mazdatrix too. This was also like 30 dollars as opposed to $75-170 a piece for remans or new calipers.



I found cross drilled and slotted Brembo rotors on ebay for $210+ $40 shipping. That is almost as cheap as some places selling stock. Stock kick *** don't get me wrong but this was too good to pass up. PM me and I can give you the guys number.



Stainless steel DOT approved brakelines for $80 from mazdatrix.



Speed bleeders from speedbleeder.com for way too damn much money = $32



Ford heavy duty DOT 4.0 brake fluid. 2 big bottles enough for an entire flush/bleed.



Hawk HP pads all the way around for 100+ shipping... ttp://www.RaceShopper.com

1-800-733-8380 but Phinsup can get them for you in the store prolly same price range.



May seem excessive but why mess around and half *** something as important as brakes. This is where I am starting with my junk yard ressurection. Safety before speed.



I will be posting my caliper rebuild here as soon as I can catch a break with the weather and not crash my DD for awhile...
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Old 01-09-2004, 11:10 PM
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Yeah. 4 piston only on the front of all of those 7's (TII, GXL and vert). Dont get X-drilled. I have heard that they can crack under heavy braking.
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Old 01-09-2004, 11:19 PM
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We usually sell the hawk pads for $40 a pair in the store, however they have been slow to deliver so my inventory is gona.



I sell the PowerSLot rotors for $99 each, $210 for Brembo's is a screaming deal.
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Old 01-10-2004, 09:00 AM
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May seem excessive but why mess around and half *** something as important as brakes. This is where I am starting with my junk yard ressurection. Safety before speed.


You my man are very smart. Most people do all the go fast upgrades and never give the brakes a second look. We all saw what that results in i.e. the Teamfc3s member that totaled his car mountain driving w/ crappy brakes.



The only things I need to do is rebuild my calipers. I might look into those kits.



I am happy w/ my stock rotors for now. I am doing an open track day in Sebring on the 12 hour course in April I will see for sure then if they are up to par. I have not had a reason up to this point to think they will not be.
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You'll love the Hawk pads. I use HP+ in the front and HPS in the rear. If you want to save some money and don't care about the look, just get good OEM replacement rotors. They are up to par for even most track events if using the stock 4 piston set up and they're cheaper to replace when your performance pads eat them up. IMO the drilled/slotted rotors are the last thing you'd want to spend money on performance wise. The fluid, pads, and lines are where you'll notice the biggest difference.
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Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Jan 10 2004, 07:00 AM
You my man are very smart. Most people do all the go fast upgrades and never give the brakes a second look. We all saw what that results in i.e. the Teamfc3s member that totaled his car mountain driving w/ crappy brakes.



The only things I need to do is rebuild my calipers. I might look into those kits.
Thank you sir It seemed like a good place to start.





The Mazda OEM part numbers are:



FB02-49-240 for single piston calipers



FB05-49-240 for four piston calipers



Don't forget your brake cylinder hone. It's the best $8 youll spend... Unless you can get a BJ for $8
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Originally Posted by FCmaniac' date='Jan 10 2004, 07:10 AM
If you want to save some money and don't care about the look, just get good OEM replacement rotors. They are up to par for even most track events if using the stock 4 piston set up and they're cheaper to replace when your performance pads eat them up. IMO the drilled/slotted rotors are the last thing you'd want to spend money on performance wise. The fluid, pads, and lines are where you'll notice the biggest difference.
I have heard a few people say that but I got my X-drill and slotted for dirt cheap. I will give them a shot and let you all know how they hold up. I may just go with slotted next time, I know they do not crack as bad and have way more surface area (8-10%) than X-drilled.



Check out this link, Deals Gap / The Dragon 318 turns in 11 miles... That is why I need whoop *** brakes I ran this last year in a Supercharged Nissan Frontier and the brakes hated me (but did not fade me) by the 7th mile.



I am thinking about reviving this post soon. Some friends and I are prolly going down in May or June.
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