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BigTurbo74 12-17-2004 03:15 AM

my stock 86'ers are junk. i'm getting ready for a long road trip and i'm looking for something that can give me more visibility as well as update looks, without adding any rice factor. i've been lookin in the nopistons store at the products and don't know much about the differences. like i said, i would like some brighter lights with possibly a better beam pattern and wouldn't mind a classy blue tint like you see on most high end cars, but i would like them to be more functional than cosmetic. lemme know your opinions. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png

j9fd3s 12-17-2004 10:12 AM

i have the h4 80/130w bulbs in mine, the low beams are about the same but the high beams are nice. fc actually has decent lighting stock, its the fb and fd that need help

dltreezan 12-17-2004 10:31 AM

I am in the process of making a sleek kit. Pretty much done with it, only low beam tho but i could offer it with an ultra bright bulb. DOT legal, low beam only however, cant much fit another in the housing yet.

Cheers! 12-17-2004 10:42 AM

the key making sure to align the light properly... else no matter how much you have spent it's all worthless. THe sylvania silverstars are pretty good for the money.

Impact Blue 12-17-2004 11:21 AM

As you probably know they sell the Hella H4 conversion in the shop--I'm in the market, also.

-M

sunshine 12-17-2004 11:48 AM

I've been doing some research lately on H4 conversions..here are the most popular choises:

Hella conversion, Pilot Motorsports, Raybrig, Cibie

allthese with a good H4 bulb.

The Pilots are the least expensive and available at an Autozone, Pepboys type of place. The Hellas are the most popular and are weel priced. Phins has them in the store for the best price over the net that I caould find. The Raybrigs and Cibies are the best housings, but are also pricey.



If your tempted to buy the cheap ebay conversions, the advice on the forums is not to. They are poor quality (duh) and the interior chrome reflective material ends up peeling off prematurely. Alos, they may be illegal as the lenses are usually clear, and dont have a bulb cap.

good luck.

-a

drunkin_idiot 12-17-2004 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by sunshine' date='Dec 17 2004, 10:47 AM
I've been doing some research lately on H4 conversions..here are the most popular choises:

Hella conversion, Pilot Motorsports, Raybrig, Cibie

allthese with a good H4 bulb.

The Pilots are the least expensive and available at an Autozone, Pepboys type of place. The Hellas are the most popular and are weel priced. Phins has them in the store for the best price over the net that I caould find. The Raybrigs and Cibies are the best housings, but are also pricey.



If your tempted to buy the cheap ebay conversions, the advice on the forums is not to. They are poor quality (duh) and the interior chrome reflective material ends up peeling off prematurely. Alos, they may be illegal as the lenses are usually clear, and dont have a bulb cap.

good luck.

-a


Damn I was tempted a few times to buy the ebay conversion, thanks for the advice.

sunshine 12-17-2004 03:50 PM

I actually just found out a bit more info about the Hella housings.



The US-Spec housings are called "vision plus" and are DOT legal. Their model number is 72207.



Hella also makes an E-spec housing, model number 72206. The advantage of the E-spec housings is that they a bit brighter and throw the light a bit further down the road. Obviously, they are not DOT legal. Also, there is a sophisticated adjusting proceedure for e-spec lights, but I dont have the link right now.

-a

sunshine 12-17-2004 04:06 PM

Okay, I'm kinda post whoring here....but IPF also makes housings for the conversion. However, I cant find much info on them.

-a

Shane.Trammell 12-17-2004 04:14 PM

i have the stock size wagner or sylvania i think they are called brite lights. they are xenons and work really really well, the other cars on the road flash their lights bc they think they are on high. i think im about to upgrade my lights and fogs to the new silverstars i think they are called.

miltstheman 12-17-2004 04:45 PM

The IPF lights can be found at rocky-road.com



I've got the round ones on my FB-very impressive but illegal to be sure.

Seppuku 12-17-2004 06:16 PM

I have the silverstarts in the vert they work nicely. I get flashed all the time though.

spaceman Spiff 12-17-2004 06:48 PM

yea silverstars are awsome liughts

porsche4786 12-17-2004 07:18 PM

I have the sylvania silverstars, they work great, but i'd like to get some bright fog lights and i'm not sure what to get for those.



kevin

BigTurbo74 12-17-2004 07:22 PM

i'm sorry but i must ask the question because i never picked it up in past threads. but plz explain the differences in standard halogen, h4, xenon, and hid lights. and sunshine keeps refering to 'conversion.' is this because you must replace the bulb and the bulb housing for the specific upgrade?

1Revvin7 12-17-2004 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by BigTurbo74' date='Dec 17 2004, 08:21 PM
i'm sorry but i must ask the question because i never picked it up in past threads. but plz explain the differences in standard halogen, h4, xenon, and hid lights. and sunshine keeps refering to 'conversion.' is this because you must replace the bulb and the bulb housing for the specific upgrade?


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nismo convert 12-18-2004 12:18 AM

i have silver stars love them get them

BigTurbo74 12-18-2004 05:01 AM

ok i did some reading, i'm leaning away from the halogens and want to find out what some hid types are going for. maybe some xenons are the best way to go.

teknics 12-18-2004 05:18 AM

you cant put HIDs in your headlights...i mean maybe with the conversion to a plastic housing...but after a month or so the HID with probably melt the inferior plastic housing.



I'd say go with a housing conversion which switches it frmoa sealed beam to a plastic type of housing with a hole in the back to simply replace bulbs, generally h4's.



Then get the brightest H4's they have in the auto parts store.



it'll be a lot brighter.



kevin.

BigTurbo74 12-18-2004 05:50 AM

haha yep, i did a bit more reading and it looks like i'm going to go with a different housing liek you said. my question now is if i buy the hella conversion setup from phins, will it support an h4 bulb?

Shane.Trammell 12-18-2004 09:08 AM

good to hear you guys like those silverstars so much. im gonna do my main bulbs with those, and then do the fogs bc they make the silver stars in the plain bulbs. that way theyll all be even

teknics 12-18-2004 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by BigTurbo74' date='Dec 18 2004, 06:50 AM
haha yep, i did a bit more reading and it looks like i'm going to go with a different housing liek you said. my question now is if i buy the hella conversion setup from phins, will it support an h4 bulb?




i believe the hella conversion includes the H4 bulbs, i could be wrong. But they'll be regular, run of the mill H4's i figure, nothing super brite. you could try running those, itll still be an improvement but you might be able to get even brighter bulbs for better visibility.



kevin.

j9fd3s 12-18-2004 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Dec 18 2004, 12:02 PM
i believe the hella conversion includes the H4 bulbs, i could be wrong. But they'll be regular, run of the mill H4's i figure, nothing super brite. you could try running those, itll still be an improvement but you might be able to get even brighter bulbs for better visibility.



kevin.




they come with the same wattage blubs as stock, then you have to find/buy the 80/130's which can be tricky

j9fd3s 12-18-2004 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by sunshine' date='Dec 17 2004, 01:49 PM
I actually just found out a bit more info about the Hella housings.



The US-Spec housings are called "vision plus" and are DOT legal. Their model number is 72207.



Hella also makes an E-spec housing, model number 72206. The advantage of the E-spec housings is that they a bit brighter and throw the light a bit further down the road. Obviously, they are not DOT legal. Also, there is a sophisticated adjusting proceedure for e-spec lights, but I dont have the link right now.

-a




the e code lights have a sharp cutoff on the low beams, they light "lower" than the stockers, but the high beams are great

BigTurbo74 12-18-2004 04:26 PM

hmm well i want to find some housings that will fit some h4's so if i change my mind it will be compatible. anybody know where to get an h4 housing/bulb kit?

j9fd3s 12-18-2004 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by BigTurbo74' date='Dec 18 2004, 02:26 PM
hmm well i want to find some housings that will fit some h4's so if i change my mind it will be compatible. anybody know where to get an h4 housing/bulb kit?




all the hella ones do, and i assume so do the others

phinsup 12-19-2004 01:03 AM

The hellas take the 9003, I sell them, not sure if you can stick an h4 in there in not. i will say be careful running the high wattage bulbs I ran 120's in my Jeep and melted the harness, had to rebuild the bitch with my soldering iron LOL



I am running 85's on the high beams in my AE they are pretty nice.

BigTurbo74 12-19-2004 01:22 AM

yeah, i would love to buy that coversion from phins but i would prefer a h4 bulb. if someone has experience with this chime in please.

phinsup 12-19-2004 01:28 AM

I know the http://eurolights.com take the h4 bulb, dunno how the quality is compared to the namebrands like hella, but might be worth a look into.

Impact Blue 12-19-2004 02:53 AM

I just bought bulbs and housings at Propulshun, on University. I've only had the best customer service there. I'll let you know how it goes--the bulbs don't look like a dual fillament, so I am confused about the high beam factor.

-M

BigTurbo74 12-19-2004 03:57 AM

well after trying to find replacement bulbs by the known companies i go on ebay and it seems the 9003 bulb is the same as h4. looks like i'm buying new lights from phins!

toplessFC3Sman 12-20-2004 10:17 AM

Yea, i got the Hella replacement housings/bulbs from the nopistons online store, and am very happy with them, just using the bulbs that came with the housings. definately a nice improvement over stock sealed-beam.

Impact Blue 12-28-2004 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Dec 19 2004, 12:28 AM
I know the http://eurolights.com take the h4 bulb, dunno how the quality is compared to the namebrands like hella, but might be worth a look into.




I just got these in from the shop I work with, and are absolutely garbage. The initial fit is just trash--the body of the bulb is too thick, so the metal shroud barely BARELY screws in. I am returning them for the Hella ones today. I guess you get what you pay for. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif



The instructions even say that for proper fitment you should grind away any metal that interferes with the bulb housing. Avoid avoid.

-M


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