Aux Port Actuation
11-30-2002, 06:21 PM
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I was bored at work so I checked out that other forum, and theres this thread going on there about 'fully blown electric auxilliary port activation'... I was excited at first until I actually read the contents, how on earth does using an electronic air pump to drive air pressure motors to actuate the aux ports equate 'fully blown electric auxilliary port activation' ?!
Anyways, I've thought about aux port and vdi actuation before, and it's always seemed like using electric rotary solenoids would work quite well, and would be very easy to control using rpm switches, and allow you to eliminate your mechanical air pump, and not require you to replace it with an electric one.
Has anyone here tried out any alternative methods of aux port actuation? If so, what were they? How well did it work?
I plan on trying some electric rotary solenoids later on, when I am done experimenting with my current LIM which has no aux port sleeves/actuators etc (want dyno results first). Try a google search for 'electric rotary solenoid' and there are a bunch of manufacturers, some claim 122 lbs-ft torque output even, so it should be no problem finding one powerful enough to fit the task.
Anyways, I've thought about aux port and vdi actuation before, and it's always seemed like using electric rotary solenoids would work quite well, and would be very easy to control using rpm switches, and allow you to eliminate your mechanical air pump, and not require you to replace it with an electric one.
Has anyone here tried out any alternative methods of aux port actuation? If so, what were they? How well did it work?
I plan on trying some electric rotary solenoids later on, when I am done experimenting with my current LIM which has no aux port sleeves/actuators etc (want dyno results first). Try a google search for 'electric rotary solenoid' and there are a bunch of manufacturers, some claim 122 lbs-ft torque output even, so it should be no problem finding one powerful enough to fit the task.
12-02-2002, 08:32 PM
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there a whole how-to on www.fc3s.org that looks like it will work pretty good. It uses a caddy air ride compressor. for electro-pneumatic actuation (i cant spell)
12-03-2002, 12:44 PM
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Doesnt make sense to me to have an electric air pump running the whole time the aux ports are to be open. you can setup electric solenoids to open and sit open without using any current and then close when you want them closed up again and sit closed, again, without using any current, only needing juice when switching states. Those air pumps are A: parasitic electrical load B: relatively heavy C: noisey D: don't last long when they run continuously ( which if you're driving hard for a long duration, is damn near continuous for the air pump).
I think the only reason nobody seems to try the electric solenoid method is because it requires more engineering to implement than just replacing a mechanical air pump with an electric one, reusing the stock pneumatic setup.
I think the only reason nobody seems to try the electric solenoid method is because it requires more engineering to implement than just replacing a mechanical air pump with an electric one, reusing the stock pneumatic setup.
12-03-2002, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pengaru' date='Dec 3 2002, 09:44 PM
Doesnt make sense to me to have an electric air pump running the whole time the aux ports are to be open. you can setup electric solenoids to open and sit open without using any current and then close when you want them closed up again and sit closed, again, without using any current, only needing juice when switching states. Those air pumps are A: parasitic electrical load B: relatively heavy C: noisey D: don't last long when they run continuously ( which if you're driving hard for a long duration, is damn near continuous for the air pump).
I think the only reason nobody seems to try the electric solenoid method is because it requires more engineering to implement than just replacing a mechanical air pump with an electric one, reusing the stock pneumatic setup.
I think the only reason nobody seems to try the electric solenoid method is because it requires more engineering to implement than just replacing a mechanical air pump with an electric one, reusing the stock pneumatic setup.
Just my .02 cents
