Anyone Want To Help The Newbie Out?
11-04-2003, 10:27 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by Pazuzu' date='Nov 4 2003, 11:17 AM
The fact is, there is alot of power hidden in the 13B that can be used with some minor basic mods (the classics, intake, exhaust, and the list of stuff in the FAQ). With those mods, and good driving, and good tires, you could take a NA RX-7 and beat most any stocker. These mods are on the order of $500 complete.
The RX-7 has some of the best handling out there. Period. Learn to drive it to it's limits, and you can whip porshes in the twisties. First, they had excellent weight distribution. Second, good strong RWD. Third, a truely linear torque curve. Forth, high RPMs.
So, you can sit in a lower gear, keep the revs up where the engine is happy, and have power on demand (no emergency downshifts for power in the curves). When you enter a curve, you're powered from behind and the weight distribution keeps things flat. No kick out in the turn. Then, since the torque curve is so easy to guess, you'll learn exactly when to get into it when exiting the curve, there is no power bumps or flat spots to fool with you.
The RX-7 has some of the best handling out there. Period. Learn to drive it to it's limits, and you can whip porshes in the twisties. First, they had excellent weight distribution. Second, good strong RWD. Third, a truely linear torque curve. Forth, high RPMs.
So, you can sit in a lower gear, keep the revs up where the engine is happy, and have power on demand (no emergency downshifts for power in the curves). When you enter a curve, you're powered from behind and the weight distribution keeps things flat. No kick out in the turn. Then, since the torque curve is so easy to guess, you'll learn exactly when to get into it when exiting the curve, there is no power bumps or flat spots to fool with you.
11-04-2003, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pazuzu' date='Nov 4 2003, 07:17 AM
The fact is, there is alot of power hidden in the 13B that can be used with some minor basic mods (the classics, intake, exhaust, and the list of stuff in the FAQ). With those mods, and good driving, and good tires, you could take a NA RX-7 and beat most any stocker. These mods are on the order of $500 complete.
The RX-7 has some of the best handling out there. Period. Learn to drive it to it's limits, and you can whip porshes in the twisties. First, they had excellent weight distribution. Second, good strong RWD. Third, a truely linear torque curve. Forth, high RPMs.
So, you can sit in a lower gear, keep the revs up where the engine is happy, and have power on demand (no emergency downshifts for power in the curves). When you enter a curve, you're powered from behind and the weight distribution keeps things flat. No kick out in the turn. Then, since the torque curve is so easy to guess, you'll learn exactly when to get into it when exiting the curve, there is no power bumps or flat spots to fool with you.
The RX-7 has some of the best handling out there. Period. Learn to drive it to it's limits, and you can whip porshes in the twisties. First, they had excellent weight distribution. Second, good strong RWD. Third, a truely linear torque curve. Forth, high RPMs.
So, you can sit in a lower gear, keep the revs up where the engine is happy, and have power on demand (no emergency downshifts for power in the curves). When you enter a curve, you're powered from behind and the weight distribution keeps things flat. No kick out in the turn. Then, since the torque curve is so easy to guess, you'll learn exactly when to get into it when exiting the curve, there is no power bumps or flat spots to fool with you.
11-04-2003, 06:43 PM
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Ok, I've been DROOLING 
and all over the pics at the top of the page (all 7m pages), And I've collected the links of pictures of the cars so I can KINDA give a better description, seince I can't figure out how to post a pic right (and there are too many for one post I think). Here you go guys, see what you can get out of this, first, it's white, lol.
BODY:
Front: https://www.nopistons.com/forums/uploads/po...-1057094814.jpg
Rear/Tail lights: https://www.nopistons.com/forums/uploads/po...-1064441332.jpg
INTERIOR:
Rear: http://www.attak.net/cloead/rx7/0013.JPG
Side: http://www.attak.net/cloead/rx7/0014.JPG
Wheels:
(I think these are factory, if not, they look the same): http://www.nfimports.net/forums/uploads/po...-1056756461.jpg
I hope SOMEONE can get SOMETHING out of this!
BODY:
Front: https://www.nopistons.com/forums/uploads/po...-1057094814.jpg
Rear/Tail lights: https://www.nopistons.com/forums/uploads/po...-1064441332.jpg
INTERIOR:
Rear: http://www.attak.net/cloead/rx7/0013.JPG
Side: http://www.attak.net/cloead/rx7/0014.JPG
Wheels:
(I think these are factory, if not, they look the same): http://www.nfimports.net/forums/uploads/po...-1056756461.jpg
I hope SOMEONE can get SOMETHING out of this!
11-04-2003, 07:05 PM
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you should go with the rx-7. they make for a good project car. and are very fun. like everyone said they have lots of hidden power to be extracted with easy mods. you can go with the 13bt, t2 engine, the 13b-rew thats twin turbo from the 3rd gen. 13b-re, from the cosmo and the 20b also from the cosmo. all it takes is thinking and some money. the more money you put in the better the results. the fc body style can be made to look very good. You must remember they crave fuel. what most cars use for large injectors rx-7's use for primary injectors. ie 550 or 610s are large for hondas talons evos subies etc...those are small for RX-7's you will not be sorry with it. but like may of us you will while building it.
11-04-2003, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Leetheslacker' date='Nov 4 2003, 05:00 PM
s4, s5 tails, GTU wheels?
So you can swap one of the Twin turbo 13b's into it with no fabrication? How much is the twin set up? HOW MUCH work is involved in this? Thx guys!
edit: and does anyone know where I could get a vented Carbon Fiber hood? Or if they even make them? Don't get me wrong, I'm NOT a ricer! I just like Carbon Fiber, and that's something they make nothing of for my fiero (several people have been claiming they are going to...but never any results)!
What kind of #'s could I expect with a TII and a Twin turbo 13b? thx! Oh, and are rottery's allinum?
11-04-2003, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Razor_Wing' date='Nov 4 2003, 04:20 PM
This brings to a rather imporant question, how hard is the RX-7 to work on?I hope is'nt not as much as a Pain in the @SS as the fiero!!! You got to almost pull the engine to do any work to it!!! GRRRR!!!!
The engine is a fraction of the bay, so it's easy to access any part. The problem is, most of the important guts are UNDER the intake, which is a big heavy three piece assembly. So, you'll become an expert at pulling the intake (which is the throttle body (TB), dynamic chamber (DC) upper and lower intake manifolds (UIM and LIM). It's a PITA the first time or two, but once you get all of the bolts and vacuum lines memorized, it takes about 30 minutes to tear down.
Rebuilding a 13B is easier than a piston engine, because there are so few parts. However, anything you might know (or people around you know) about piston rebuilds is 100% useless, so tell them to get lost and do it yourself.
11-04-2003, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Pazuzu' date='Nov 4 2003, 09:15 PM
Rebuilding a 13B is easier than a piston engine, because there are so few parts. However, anything you might know (or people around you know) about piston rebuilds is 100% useless, so tell them to get lost and do it yourself.
It looks like if you buy this car, you'll have a big project on your hands. Getting a car without a motor is a mistake in my opinion. You dont know what goes where and if you a missing parts for the management systems and emissions control, your screwed. I suggest you get a car with a motor, running or not in it
As for skidpad numbers, i think it was in the .85g-.90g range off the showroom floor. With good tyres and an agressive alignment you can very close to 1g.
And to answer the 12A turbo question, there was one in japan
11-04-2003, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Apex13B' date='Nov 4 2003, 06:46 PM
since i build piston race motors for a living and rebuild/fabricate stuff for both types of motors on the side, i find that statement totally untrue. Especially with porting and understanding retard/advance. If you have cam timing down to an exact science, you can port a 13b very well. With exellent flow characteristics down low and up top. Ignition systems and timing are the same contrary to popular belief. And a fuel map for a fuel injected chevy V8 look the same as a fuel map for a turbo 13b
It looks like if you buy this car, you'll have a big project on your hands. Getting a car without a motor is a mistake in my opinion. You dont know what goes where and if you a missing parts for the management systems and emissions control, your screwed. I suggest you get a car with a motor, running or not in it
As for skidpad numbers, i think it was in the .85g-.90g range off the showroom floor. With good tyres and an agressive alignment you can very close to 1g.
And to answer the 12A turbo question, there was one in japan
It looks like if you buy this car, you'll have a big project on your hands. Getting a car without a motor is a mistake in my opinion. You dont know what goes where and if you a missing parts for the management systems and emissions control, your screwed. I suggest you get a car with a motor, running or not in it
As for skidpad numbers, i think it was in the .85g-.90g range off the showroom floor. With good tyres and an agressive alignment you can very close to 1g.
And to answer the 12A turbo question, there was one in japan