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rotaryfreek 06-13-2004 09:03 PM

are you close to finishing . Are you even working on the car yet.

rx7_re 06-14-2004 04:29 PM

OK, Do you know for sure that you are even getting spark? Nothing is going to happen without that.



Also, just to be certain, turn the engine over with the starter with the all the plugs out and the EGI fuses pulled. You should be able to tell right away if your motor is still intact.



I have had both the flooding and the spark issue before. Something else HAS to be messed up if it stalled on you while driving. Was it when you pushed the clutch in as if coming to a stop or were you just cruising along with the clutch out and the car in gear when it died?





BTW: GOOD LUCK!!!

rowtareh 06-14-2004 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by rx7_re' date='Jun 14 2004, 05:29 PM
OK, Do you know for sure that you are even getting spark? Nothing is going to happen without that.



Also, just to be certain, turn the engine over with the starter with the all the plugs out and the EGI fuses pulled. You should be able to tell right away if your motor is still intact.



I have had both the flooding and the spark issue before. Something else HAS to be messed up if it stalled on you while driving. Was it when you pushed the clutch in as if coming to a stop or were you just cruising along with the clutch out and the car in gear when it died?





BTW: GOOD LUCK!!!

It was actually in second gear coming up to a red light, and I know the light is short, so I rode 2nd gear all the way through, then it just started sputtering once I put the gas back on slightly since the RPM's would've been high of course with the clutch out of course, and just started sputtering and kicking back and being really violent and bitchy, and I made a turn to where I work and as soon as I made the turn it died on me and I had to let it just roll right into a vacant parking lot. Also when it was sputtering and dying on me, I could not go over 45mph. I did not really check my RPM's. Now I wish I did though.



It was just weird that it would do that. I have never read anywhere else of this happening.



I can't really check for spark unless the engine is running is what the POS Haynes manual says to do.

rx7_re 06-14-2004 06:09 PM

meh, an easy way to tell is to have a buddy crank the engine over while you pull one of the plug wires out of the coil and hold it about about an inch or 2 away. If you see some sparks then there ya go. I suggest doing this ooutside if possible cause sparks + gas = bang. You as well should get a little shock too.



Once it is running it will be a lot easier to get a beat on the other problem.

venomrx7 06-14-2004 06:38 PM

do the atf trick, it won't hurt anything.



and don't worry about a fuse in the dash, just the main egi under the hood. pull that, pull the bottom plugs, turn the motor over a few times, put a little atf into both plug holes, re install plugs, turn over a few times, put the egi fuse back in, start the car. less than 5 minutes and it should be running.

rowtareh 06-14-2004 08:11 PM

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif It runs.



BUT!!! Has really shitty ass idle, and will not stay started. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif I was so glad to hear that hum of a rotary engine again, but won't stay started.



Now tomorrow I am gonna replace the fuel filter, check the injectors out, and anything else that you all would recommend I should check? Also gonna reset the TPS to the RIGHT setting.



Anything else? Man, what a ground sound. It was backfiring like craaaaaaaazy though. Even had some triple backfires out of it also. But no flames!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

Rob x-7 06-14-2004 08:24 PM

I would throw some MMO in there overnight, then when your all

done messing with it and the smoke clears put fresh plugs

and fuel filter

rowtareh 06-14-2004 08:37 PM

How much MMO? Is there anything to put in other than MMO? I have none at my place, and it is too late to go out.



What would the MMO help doing? Just lubricate it a little bit more, and eat away more of the carbon? Just curious.

1gendreemer 06-14-2004 08:44 PM

I hate to say this, but the way it's acting it sounds like you did blow the motor. My car did basically the same thing when it went. This was years ago, but the story goes something like this. I was racing a guy on my way home from school, got finished with that, pulled into my driveway a few minutes later, and the car started running like ****. It's trying to turn off, sputtering/bucking/backfiring, and had no power. It was a blown apex seal. I actually drove the car to my mechanic, but it was ugly...no guts at all and it kept trying to shut off...Plus it was kinda hard to start. I'd check all the other stuff to be sure, but I think it's bad news bro.

1gendreemer 06-14-2004 08:47 PM

MMO helps build compression and clean out carbon like ATF would, but is not so corrosive or bad for the plugs. Burns cleaner. I wouldn't use too much, maybe a third of a dixie cup or less in each chamber (3 per rotor). Spin the motor with the plugs out to make sure it's coated everything and give it a try. I noticed a few times too that you mentioned putting oil on the plugs...I wouldn't do that. Plugs are supposed to stay dry.


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