does anyone know how i can tell if my 87 na uses r12 or r134a refrigerant?

R12, unless it was converted.

The expensive ****. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

It's worth it if you like A/C. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

The best alternative is Freeze12 which is a NON FLAMMABLE freon substitute. You don't even need to evacuate the old freon and it works much better than R134. At $12/can you can't find a better deal. Used it for 2 years now and can't tell the difference from R12.

Where can you get it?

www.freeze12.com

You have to be certified to buy it but the online test is only $20. I get mine done from a local mechanic. There aren't many who have even heard of it. But this is some good ****.

it can be converted to 134a easy no major $ it cools just as good. put adp. fittings on add some ester oil vacuum&charge, it takes less to run with it. 25% less you can change it over for price of 1 can of r12.if its 12 it will have threads on ports .134 has quick disconnect ports https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif

Now if I only had A/C. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

usually u can get kit at walmart for 30 something dollars. have seen 134a system pull under 40 deg. r12 is like 1000$ for a 30lb container! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif

Fix it.



I hope the A/C in my car works. ITs the last thing im worried about.

Fix it.



I hope the A/C in my car works. ITs the last thing im worried about.[/quote]

I removed everything. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Fix it.



I hope the A/C in my car works. ITs the last thing im worried about.[/quote]

I removed everything. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png[/quote]

I will too, if I cant fix it with some freon https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Fix it.



I hope the A/C in my car works. ITs the last thing im worried about.[/quote]

I removed everything. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png[/quote]

I will too, if I cant fix it with some freon https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png[/quote]

I removed it to make more roon, but I'm keeping A/C in the other cars.

Room for what? The only thing That I think that would get in the way would be the power steering, for the intercooler. But its gone.

Ok, maybe I just felt like removing it. :P

Was that so hard to say?

Not really.

Pull that sissy crap off and sweat like a man!

we thought about taking cronic`s off he never uses it. it`s a bitch pulling eng. with that huge ps&ac bracket there.

Victoria British sells a conversion for our cars.

I wonder if it works well.

I wonder if it works well.[/quote]

Being as freon is so scarce, its worth a shot.

I wonder if it works well.[/quote]

Being as freon is so scarce, its worth a shot.[/quote]

Yeah, I guess so. Maybe I'll try it in the 91. Pep Boys sells the kits.

I wonder if it works well.[/quote]

Being as freon is so scarce, its worth a shot.[/quote]

Yeah, I guess so. Maybe I'll try it in the 91. Pep Boys sells the kits.[/quote]

Ah, how could I forget Pep Boys, I would do the conversion, but im not sure how it would work charging it yourself? Im sure it will come with instructions. once you have A/c again, you wont go back!

I wonder if it works well.[/quote]

Being as freon is so scarce, its worth a shot.[/quote]

Yeah, I guess so. Maybe I'll try it in the 91. Pep Boys sells the kits.[/quote]

Ah, how could I forget Pep Boys, I would do the conversion, but im not sure how it would work charging it yourself? Im sure it will come with instructions. once you have A/c again, you wont go back![/quote]

Then all I need is paint. How much was that aftermarket hood?

I wonder if it works well.[/quote]

Being as freon is so scarce, its worth a shot.[/quote]

Yeah, I guess so. Maybe I'll try it in the 91. Pep Boys sells the kits.[/quote]

Ah, how could I forget Pep Boys, I would do the conversion, but im not sure how it would work charging it yourself? Im sure it will come with instructions. once you have A/c again, you wont go back![/quote]

Then all I need is paint. How much was that aftermarket hood?[/quote]

It was somewhere under $200, cant remember the price right now. I think I paid $150 a few years ago. How about a custom cowl hood?

I wonder if it works well.[/quote]

Being as freon is so scarce, its worth a shot.[/quote]

Yeah, I guess so. Maybe I'll try it in the 91. Pep Boys sells the kits.[/quote]

Ah, how could I forget Pep Boys, I would do the conversion, but im not sure how it would work charging it yourself? Im sure it will come with instructions. once you have A/c again, you wont go back![/quote]

Then all I need is paint. How much was that aftermarket hood?[/quote]

It was somewhere under $200, cant remember the price right now. I think I paid $150 a few years ago. How about a custom cowl hood?[/quote]

It depends on how long it would take. I may have to be gone by August 1. :(

Gone where?

Gone where?[/quote]

Far far away.

This old man that lives down the road from me bought some stuff called

R12a The guy at the auto part store where he bought it said

that you dont even have to evacuate your old r12 just screw on

quick connector fitting, and put the crap in.

So we tried it in his car. seams to be working fine. he gots ice cold air

now. Has anyone else tried this yet?