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ROTARYROCKET7 03-12-2003 11:01 AM

Im am currently looking at the ACT clutch; like some other people are , yeah you Nick lol. I wanted to know if anyone has it and what feedback i can get from them on its performance. I know ACT is one of the best clutches out there but i know people have their own opinion. so i would greatly appreciate feedback on the ACT ZX2-HDSS Clutch it retails for $386 but ive found a coouple of sites that have it for $305.00. By april when i have my spring break im going to convert it and if im doing the tranny why put in the old clutch why not just put in a new one right. Kill two birds with one stone. Thanks



JazeR, Nyc

ROTARYROCKET7 03-12-2003 11:07 AM

total will be like $450 with tranny and ACT clutch.P.S for those of you that dont know me i have an auto that im converting to 5 speed. Yeah i know "Atuooooooooooomatic wtf?" hey thats what i found and i love rex so much i just bought it lol

j9fd3s 03-12-2003 11:12 AM

you should get a light wieght fly wheel too, it will save a little time and they drive better



mike

ROTARYROCKET7 03-12-2003 11:17 AM

yeah i was thinking bout the lighter flywheel but i dont want it too light i want something more reasonable like in the middle . But there are very expensive and i think i will put a hold on that. I dont want my boy to change his mind hes doing the tranny conversion for like $150, throw in some heinekins and some weed and im set, and thats including labor and all the other stuff like counter balances and what not. I got low funds right now. I get paid like $200.00 every two weeks from Autozone and that moneys goes in transportation for shcool , phone and insurance so im left with $20 lol. ANyways ill look into those flywheels thankz





Jason

ROTARYROCKET7 03-12-2003 03:35 PM

what no feedback?

rx7machine 03-12-2003 03:42 PM

This is what I got from SRmotorsports.com-

It's there internet special:

1983-1991 RX-7 Non-Turbo

#9.5 aluminum flywheel, counterweight, hardware and bearing kit and ACT clutch set. (race or street / strip)

$799 Was $897



Part Number AC-13124

1Revvin7 03-12-2003 03:55 PM

SO which clutch is this? 4/6puck or street clutch?

ROTARYROCKET7 03-12-2003 10:19 PM

strip/street clutch the 4 and 6 puck are too rought they got ruff engagements and is not suitable for street carz

TYSON 03-12-2003 10:40 PM

I have the one people call a street / strip clutch in my FD. It is the heavy duty pressure plate and street disc. Works fine so far, similar pedal feel to the original. Don't really notice a difference. I haven't abused it yet, you won't be testing the limit very hard either with an N/A. If you are getting it all for $450, jump on it. Cost me nearly 3X's that.

rx7machine 03-12-2003 10:43 PM

Yea, the one I got is the street/strip clutch.

Seppuku 03-12-2003 10:50 PM

Ah this thread just reminded me that im gonna need a new clutch soon. Ive done too many launches and the stock clutch wont hold out much more. But it had its fair share of problems to begin with i just finished it off.

ROTARYROCKET7 03-12-2003 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Mar 12 2003, 08:40 PM
I have the one people call a street / strip clutch in my FD. It is the heavy duty pressure plate and street disc. Works fine so far, similar pedal feel to the original. Don't really notice a difference. I haven't abused it yet, you won't be testing the limit very hard either with an N/A. If you are getting it all for $450, jump on it. Cost me nearly 3X's that.

yeah my boy is doing the tranny for $150 parts and labour plus some beer and weed and im like **** why dont i get a clutch while im at it since hes gonna do all the friggin labor lol. I hope i have it ready for the summer got some people bad mouthing the rx7 and the rotary engine lol

Apex13B 03-12-2003 10:57 PM

you guys have any experience with the 12lb flywheels?...it seems like a nice compimise

ROTARYROCKET7 03-12-2003 11:01 PM

yeah flywheels i want something in the middle i dont need all that higher acceleration **** im kewl with the current flywheel a little lighter wouldnt be too bad so suggestions guyz will be widely gratified

ILUVMY88CABRIO 03-13-2003 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by Seppuku' date='Mar 12 2003, 09:50 PM
Ah this thread just reminded me that im gonna need a new clutch soon. Ive done too many launches and the stock clutch wont hold out much more. But it had its fair share of problems to begin with i just finished it off.

My clutch was slipping on me while I was at the drag strip. I have been pampering the thing for over a week and a half, with tons noise from it. It hates me. Sucks though, I have to wait another month before I can afford the clutch. I will be getting the sprung 6 puck.



To decide wether to get a light weigh flywheel or not, you need to decide what kind of racing you will be doing. For drag racing the stock, or slightly lighter flywheel will do. You need a nice heavy flywheel for the inertia to get off the line. But If you are going to do autocross or road racing, a lighter flywheel will be better.

1Revvin7 03-13-2003 08:00 AM

I wonder how well a street/strip clutch would actually hold up to drag racing/street use... assuming it was rated for more than enough torque.

rx7machine 03-13-2003 08:39 AM


I wonder how well a street/strip clutch would actually hold up to drag racing/street use... assuming it was rated for more than enough torque.
IDK, well.. at least better than stock. Mine came with an Indigo flywheel.

ROTARYROCKET7 03-13-2003 12:18 PM

well i assume it is better desinged to take more abuse than the stock one. I think they can pretty much assume that you will be dogging it once you get it so they have to make it for a stonger so you can get what you paid for. So no one has the act clutch?

rx7machine 03-13-2003 12:38 PM

My ACT clutch is being put in right now. Hopefully I'll be able to give you some feedback on mine in a week or so.

ROTARYROCKET7 03-14-2003 12:13 AM

ok thats sounds good. Im doing this little conversion in mid april when i get my spring break from college. I think by that time you should have got some real things to tell me bout the clutch. Is it the ZX2-hdss???

rx7machine 03-14-2003 12:42 AM


Is it the ZX2-hdss???
Agh.. I wish I knew what that meant.. this is exactly where I got it from: http://www.srmotorsports.com/sr86clch.html

TYSON 03-14-2003 02:08 AM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Mar 13 2003, 09:00 AM
I wonder how well a street/strip clutch would actually hold up to drag racing/street use... assuming it was rated for more than enough torque.

My buddy smoked his clutch disc with his stock twin turbos and all the bolt on mods. Got about 20 launches at the track and a couple of screwing around street burnouts out of it. I think he had street rubber on the car, not drag radials. Not to good. He ran a 12.8 on the last pass he did, and the clutch slipped completely on the way home from the track.

ROTARYROCKET7 03-14-2003 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by rx7machine' date='Mar 13 2003, 10:42 PM
Agh.. I wish I knew what that meant.. this is exactly where I got it from: http://www.srmotorsports.com/sr86clch.html

zx2-hdss is the part number for the ACT clutch im getting hd stands for the Heavy Duty pressure plate and ss stands for the SS stands for the ACT Performance Organic street disc.



The presure plates comes in three types 1: Hd= Heavy Duty Pressure Plate

2: XT= X-treme Pressure plate

3: XX= Max Extreme



The discs come in 5 styles but the last two are for racing and the SS is the top of the line for street use. After that its only for racing.



So ihope that helps you in deciding what ZX2-Hdss means, and oh the ZX2 is the vehicle applications. Dont ask me why it should of been RX7-HDSS right



jazer nyc

ROTARYROCKET7 03-14-2003 10:53 AM

Make: Mazda Model: RX7-Must use with 8mm thick di Year: 83-92

Applications: Non Turbo, 1100/1300cc, 225mm Suggested Retail Price



Clutch Kit Number: ZX2-HDSS $383.00

ACt info



Torque Capacity: 268







Pressure Increase: 34% Over Stock

Weight: 14.00 lbs.

ACT Pressure Plate: MZ-013

ACT Disc: MZSD056S

Release Bearing: RB091

Pilot Bearing: PB1013

Alignment Tool: AT05 Actual Photo

XACT Flywheels Available:

Comments:

Note:



SRX7 part number is AC13120 is ZX2-HDSS, but it costs $377. RX7Trix has it for $305.00.

Geoffman72 03-14-2003 02:23 PM

I bought an ACT Xtreme pressure plate and SS disc a year and a half ago. Installed it last year with an RB 12lb aluminum flywheel and I would never want any more weight on the flywheel than there is now. It is an expensive upgrade though and you'll also have to invest in a $25 socket to remove the old flywheel and install the new one.

ROTARYROCKET7 03-14-2003 05:13 PM

my boy got all the sockets needed since he does alot of werk with all rotary powered cars. He taking a tranny and a 13b engine and puttin in his rx-4. He blew his motor like a week ago. and hes sellingme the body for 100 bucks so if ya need anything let me know lol. how much is the Rb flywheel

Geoffman72 03-14-2003 05:38 PM

$455.00 at www.mazdatrix.com

Apex13B 03-14-2003 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Mar 13 2003, 09:00 AM
I wonder how well a street/strip clutch would actually hold up to drag racing/street use... assuming it was rated for more than enough torque.

the act stage 2 clutch is rated at 260 ft lbs.....i dont think a PP/or bridge ported motor makes even close to that torque https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

rx7machine 03-16-2003 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Mar 14 2003, 03:08 AM
My buddy smoked his clutch disc with his stock twin turbos and all the bolt on mods. Got about 20 launches at the track and a couple of screwing around street burnouts out of it. I think he had street rubber on the car, not drag radials. Not to good. He ran a 12.8 on the last pass he did, and the clutch slipped completely on the way home from the track.

Uh.. that sucks.. hope they're not that bad.

1Revvin7 03-16-2003 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Apex13B' date='Mar 14 2003, 08:13 PM
the act stage 2 clutch is rated at 260 ft lbs.....i dont think a PP/or bridge ported motor makes even close to that torque https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

The guy I got my haltech map from has a stock s4 block that is making 300ft lbs of torque on a hybrid turbo https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png..... Anyhow thats kinda of what I am wondering, there is a ACT street/strip clutch I am looking at that is rated for up to 440ft/lbs of torque, But can this handle high rpm launches and last a long time???? I mean if it could what the hell would be the point of 6/4 puck clutches?? cuz those are just harsh.

ROTARYROCKET7 03-16-2003 03:23 PM

THE 4/6 PUCKS ARE FOR REAL TRACK RACING NOT FOR US STREET RACERS https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif

Apex13B 03-16-2003 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Mar 16 2003, 03:40 PM
The guy I got my haltech map from has a stock s4 block that is making 300ft lbs of torque on a hybrid turbo https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png..... Anyhow thats kinda of what I am wondering, there is a ACT street/strip clutch I am looking at that is rated for up to 440ft/lbs of torque, But can this handle high rpm launches and last a long time???? I mean if it could what the hell would be the point of 6/4 puck clutches?? cuz those are just harsh.

um ...**** turbos..i hate them ...LOL



I didnt mention the fact that me and rotaryrocket7's cars are NA, so there is less torque involved in the equation. I suggest if you want streetabliity go with a multi-disc setup with a medium pressure plate...lots of money though. Drag racing breaks clutches, so your choice will be a comprimise. Solely dependent on your wallet

ROTARYROCKET7 03-16-2003 07:15 PM

yeah what he said. I kant wait to get my clutch but wait i gotta get my tranny first.


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