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sleeperRX7 07-24-2002 10:00 PM

im considering buying 4.3 final drive gears but whats all involved to do it? does the whole rear diff have to be pulled? i just dont feel like reading my haynes manual, im tired,lol workign construction for the first time whipped my ass,later







sleeperRX7 is sleeping............dreams of 1200 hp 3rd gen wasting everything :yinyang:

13BAce 07-24-2002 10:02 PM

Yes, you have to remove the whole rear and take it apart.

sleeperRX7 07-24-2002 10:05 PM

hehe i figured that: ( im just to tired to realize it, when i get a new clutch and actually have a day off, rofl, no one else reply casue the man has spoken and answered it, nah just kidding does anyone make a shorter gear,say a 4.10 perhaps?





sleeperRX7 is sleeping...........counting girls gone wild

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13BAce 07-24-2002 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by sleeperRX7' date='Jul 25 2002, 01:05 AM
hehe i figured that: ( im just to tired to realize it, when i get a new clutch and actually have a day off, rofl, no one else reply casue the man has spoken and answered it, nah just kidding does anyone make a shorter gear,say a 4.10 perhaps?





sleeperRX7 is sleeping...........counting girls gone wild

:unsure:

4.10 is stock on all 5 speeds except 88 convertibles and the GTUs.

sleeperRX7 07-24-2002 10:10 PM

ok than a gearing thats lets you accelerate faster than a 4.30 end,i really going to sleep after one more post? :unsure:

13BAce 07-24-2002 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by sleeperRX7' date='Jul 25 2002, 01:10 AM
ok than a gearing thats lets you accelerate faster than a 4.30 end,i really going to sleep after one more post? :unsure:

The higher the ratio the better the acceleration.

sleeperRX7 07-24-2002 10:27 PM

i thought it was the lower the ratio the faster, but when i thought about it after like 5 minutes i was like im a fing moron, say you put the 4.30 ratio in a 88 5 speed n/a, its a really big difference?i know it would also depend on which model it was but i dont really know a whole lot about gear ratios,just havnt read up on them.thanks









i woke up :P

13BAce 07-24-2002 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by sleeperRX7' date='Jul 25 2002, 01:27 AM
i thought it was the lower the ratio the faster, but when i thought about it after like 5 minutes i was like im a fing moron, say you put the 4.30 ratio in a 88 5 speed n/a, its a really big difference?i know it would also depend on which model it was but i dont really know a whole lot about gear ratios,just havnt read up on them.thanks









i woke up :P

Yeah, you should notice better acceleration with 4.3.

1988RedT2 07-26-2002 09:07 AM

Hmmm. So these 4.30 gears.... will they fit in the rear end of an '88 TII? Any difference between the gears for an N/A and a Turbo? I imagine pulling the diff out and opening it up and replacing the gears is a bit of a bear... Anybody here done this?

13BAce 07-26-2002 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by 1988RedT2' date='Jul 26 2002, 12:07 PM
Hmmm. So these 4.30 gears.... will they fit in the rear end of an '88 TII? Any difference between the gears for an N/A and a Turbo? I imagine pulling the diff out and opening it up and replacing the gears is a bit of a bear... Anybody here done this?

The NA gears are different. Racing Beat sells 4.375 for TII's. I've never swapped gears, but the differential is pretty easy to take apart.

ILUVMY88CABRIO 07-27-2002 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jul 26 2002, 07:56 PM
I've never swapped gears, but the differential is pretty easy to take apart.

That's coming from some one that can do an engine swap in a hour or two. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

13BAce 07-27-2002 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by ILUVMY88CABRIO' date='Jul 27 2002, 08:33 AM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 26 2002, 07:56 PM']I've never swapped gears, but the differential is pretty easy to take apart.

That's coming from some one that can do an engine swap in a hour or two. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif[/quote]

A GOOD engine swap will take longer than that. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Rob x-7 07-27-2002 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by 1988RedT2' date='Jul 26 2002, 10:07 AM
Hmmm. So these 4.30 gears.... will they fit in the rear end of an '88 TII? Any difference between the gears for an N/A and a Turbo? I imagine pulling the diff out and opening it up and replacing the gears is a bit of a bear... Anybody here done this?

Its critical that you have it lined up properly, usually people dont do thier own gears, they have a shop that specializes in it do it for them. Clearences to check and what not. Its not a matter of just 'slapping in' a new ring and pinion, thats why there are shops that do it.

13BAce 07-27-2002 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Jul 27 2002, 07:37 PM
[quote name='1988RedT2' date='Jul 26 2002, 10:07 AM']Hmmm. So these 4.30 gears.... will they fit in the rear end of an '88 TII? Any difference between the gears for an N/A and a Turbo? I imagine pulling the diff out and opening it up and replacing the gears is a bit of a bear... Anybody here done this?

Its critical that you have it lined up properly, usually people dont do thier own gears, they have a shop that specializes in it do it for them. Clearences to check and what not. Its not a matter of just 'slapping in' a new ring and pinion, thats why there are shops that do it.[/quote]

Yeah, that's a good point. It's not really a job for Cooter.

1988RedT2 07-30-2002 02:00 PM

But mah middle name is "Cooter". Mah pappy ran moonshine down in Tennessee! Ah knows ah kin do it!

89 Rag 07-30-2002 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jul 27 2002, 04:49 PM
[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jul 27 2002, 07:37 PM'][quote name='1988RedT2' date='Jul 26 2002, 10:07 AM']Hmmm. So these 4.30 gears.... will they fit in the rear end of an '88 TII? Any difference between the gears for an N/A and a Turbo? I imagine pulling the diff out and opening it up and replacing the gears is a bit of a bear... Anybody here done this?

Its critical that you have it lined up properly, usually people dont do thier own gears, they have a shop that specializes in it do it for them. Clearences to check and what not. Its not a matter of just 'slapping in' a new ring and pinion, thats why there are shops that do it.[/quote]

Yeah, that's a good point. It's not really a job for Cooter.[/quote]

Losing teeth on a ring gear sucks period, losing a ring gear @ high speed may cause many other things to become broken which really sucks. These swaps need to be done by the pro's

banzaitoyota 07-30-2002 07:04 PM

The setup-up of the ring n pinion needs to be done by pros, The pumpkin installation is definately DIY!!


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