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FrestyleFC3S 01-12-2004 09:35 PM

i want 1600cc injectors, but i want them to fit in stock rail, and i dont want to mod the injectors







so give me an answer

Leetheslacker 01-12-2004 09:44 PM

use the flux capacitor.

FrestyleFC3S 01-12-2004 09:48 PM

or dont post 15 year old stupid bullshit in my post?



please let the car drivers post real answers

sidewinderx7 01-12-2004 10:18 PM

i know you dont want to, but did you see the website that shows you how to modify them? All youre really doing is putting new o rings on. Other than that, i dont know any place that sells 1600cc's that are drop ins.



But for the price (i can get them 60 bucks per injector) it doesnt seem to bad to modify them, or get one of the nice looking new fuel rails. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png They are pretty ... and expensive :(

FrestyleFC3S 01-12-2004 10:31 PM

yeah i was gonna do the mod....but i dunno...i wanna be able to reuse them if i get something different



and im not ready to splurge 500 on a fuel system right now

RussellTT94 01-12-2004 10:57 PM

i know where you can get a secondary fuel rail for dirt cheap. PM me if you are interested.

Jims5543 01-12-2004 11:02 PM

I toyed around w/ going from 1300's to 1600's and asked Cameron at Pettits. He looked at me and asked if I was planning on making over 500RWHP. I said no. He said then dont waste your money.



So I ask you, What kind of HP are you shooting for.



Have you ever seen this fuel calculator?? Its handy.



http://www.rx7.com/cgi-local/2ndgencalc.cgi

FrestyleFC3S 01-13-2004 12:06 AM

yo i have 18800 hp



jims go online you tit

$150FC 01-13-2004 12:24 AM

i'm not sure if he's here but carx7 on the other forums modified his stock rail, not the injectors.

FrestyleFC3S 01-13-2004 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by RussellTT94' date='Jan 13 2004, 12:57 AM
i know where you can get a secondary fuel rail for dirt cheap. PM me if you are interested.

yea i do too...but changing the secondary rail = no more FPR = need new FPR = need new lines = need new primary rail = need whole new fuel system

boost_creep 01-13-2004 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by FrestyleFC3S' date='Jan 12 2004, 10:25 PM
yea i do too...but changing the secondary rail = no more FPR = need new FPR = need new lines = need new primary rail = need whole new fuel system

My suggestion.......Forget 1600cc injectors. You don't want to do or pay what is required for 1600's soooooooooooo.........leave it alone https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif .

FrestyleFC3S 01-13-2004 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by boost_creep' date='Jan 13 2004, 02:39 AM
My suggestion.......Forget 1600cc injectors. You don't want to do or pay what is required for 1600's soooooooooooo.........leave it alone https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif .

because i can use 1600cc injectors WITHOUT doing all that....what arent you understanding



ive seen you post like 5 times and they were all already stated, or just not relevant to the thread

turborotor 01-13-2004 12:45 AM

Never go cheap on a fuel system!

FrestyleFC3S 01-13-2004 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by turborotor' date='Jan 13 2004, 02:45 AM
Never go cheap on a fuel system!

yeah but if it works .... :/

boost_creep 01-13-2004 12:56 AM

"So youre so smart...eh". Its people like you we associate with sorry fire stories. "So youre so smart.....WOW". At least you read my posts......intresting were'nt they.

boost_creep 01-13-2004 12:59 AM

Have you recently checked and seen how many posts you have on this forum https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png . If you have that many posts and are considering silly S*** https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png like you are now I would not take the time to check all the crappy stuff you may have asked and posted in the past https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif .

FrestyleFC3S 01-13-2004 01:02 AM

what in the **** are you talking about

boost_creep 01-13-2004 01:10 AM


Originally Posted by FrestyleFC3S' date='Jan 12 2004, 11:02 PM
what in the **** are you talking about

You having a brain FART stupid https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png ? Continue pretending you dont understand anything. Thats why you know nothing!!!!!!!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...iss-monkey.gif



Enough of you. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683431.gif

FrestyleFC3S 01-13-2004 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by boost_creep' date='Jan 13 2004, 03:10 AM
You having a brain FART stupid https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png ? Continue pretending you dont understand anything. Thats why you know nothing!!!!!!!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...iss-monkey.gif



Enough of you. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683431.gif

wonderful

Dramon_Killer 01-13-2004 01:23 AM

Damn everyone chill out. This isn't even GenD. This is nopistons, save the drama for the evil forum.

ILUVMY88CABRIO 01-13-2004 01:38 AM

Now children, don't make me lock the thread!



I'd just buy an aftermarket FPR, and modify your secondary rail. Like Turborotor said, don't go cheap on the fuel system. Are you still running the stock injectors? EMS? Turbo?

FrestyleFC3S 01-13-2004 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by ILUVMY88CABRIO' date='Jan 13 2004, 03:38 AM
Now children, don't make me lock the thread!



I'd just buy an aftermarket FPR, and modify your secondary rail. Like Turborotor said, don't go cheap on the fuel system. Are you still running the stock injectors? EMS? Turbo?

stock turbo...haltech e6k...walbro pump, otherwise stock fuel

g_dripht-alex 01-13-2004 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Jan 12 2004, 09:02 PM
I toyed around w/ going from 1300's to 1600's and asked Cameron at Pettits. He looked at me and asked if I was planning on making over 500RWHP. I said no. He said then dont waste your money.



So I ask you, What kind of HP are you shooting for.



Have you ever seen this fuel calculator?? Its handy.



http://www.rx7.com/cgi-local/2ndgencalc.cgi

hmm funny i have 1600 secondarys and i dont have 500hp https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif then again they're prolly running at like half duty cycle, maybe when my cars running agian and i get a new turbo i will have 500hp...HMMMM.

sidewinderx7 01-13-2004 03:52 AM

think of it like this. Buy 2 1600's .. 70 bucks a pop. modify them. THEN, when you decide to spring for a more complete fuel system, buy 2 more if you cant use the modifed ones. 140 bucks, no biggie. It doesnt look like theres anyway around it :(

isamu 01-13-2004 09:48 AM

Marren makes drop in 1600 injectors. They are offered through their pro-import series injectors. They run for 115 a piece. I don't think they are listed on the website so you will have to call them.

j9fd3s 01-13-2004 10:49 AM

you dont need 1600s, the stock turbo will see to that. if you tune it right you can run like 13-14psi on your setup with the fuel you've got, until the turbo is quits

neevosh 01-13-2004 03:22 PM

Just modify the stock rail. If you **** it up, you can find another one for

$15-20.

turborotor 01-13-2004 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jan 13 2004, 12:49 PM
you dont need 1600s, the stock turbo will see to that. if you tune it right you can run like 13-14psi on your setup with the fuel you've got, until the turbo is quits

Ditto, stocker runs out of steam at upper rpms.

DJ Blu 01-13-2004 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Jan 13 2004, 12:02 AM
I toyed around w/ going from 1300's to 1600's and asked Cameron at Pettits. He looked at me and asked if I was planning on making over 500RWHP. I said no. He said then dont waste your money.



So I ask you, What kind of HP are you shooting for.



Have you ever seen this fuel calculator?? Its handy.



http://www.rx7.com/cgi-local/2ndgencalc.cgi

hey... that caculator is fun i just found out that i need 9999999999cc primary and 9999999999cc secondary injectors with my ecu running at an 80% duty cycle to be able to maintain 4610996363.2 hp at the flywheel.



the thingy is warning me to change my stock fuel pump, but i think in can manage with keeping it.

scathcart 01-14-2004 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by neevosh' date='Jan 13 2004, 01:22 PM
Just modify the stock rail. If you **** it up, you can find another one for

$15-20.

Not safe on the stock 89-91 rails. The surrounding bung is too thin and can crack when you bore it out.



Seriously, folks, there's an easy solution to this.



Find a stock secondary fuel rail from a 1987-1988 TII. This will use banjo bolts instead of welded ends, and the fuel pressure regulator bolts on and off as well. Use this rail with the stock FPR and you will be fine.



Next, take your S4 fuel rail and bore out the holes to 35/64ths (0.547"). If you look hard, you can find a drill bit for this (http://www.arizonatools.com/catalog/...4/detail/1355/). make sure to set your depth lock on your drill press. Then, chamfer the ends so you don't destroy the o-ring when installing them.



Now you have a rail that bolts on in the stock position, will fit the stock fuel lines, and costs a total of $20 if you source one used, with a stock FPR.



If you are uncomfortable properly drillign this, just take the rail to your machine shop.





Your other options include: having a custom fuel rail built, which is more costly than you want, or using a stock o-ring and trimming the injector, which you also don't want.



Hope this helps.


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