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rotary>piston 05-27-2003 12:02 AM

I went to "high school drags" today, and SUCKED. Was it me, the atmospheric pressure (I'm at 1 mile high), or is my car not running all the way up to par?



These are my 3 runs:



R/T .574 .634 .568

60' 2.611 2.461 2.586

1/8 11.552 11.289 11.421

MPH 61.77 61.09 60.04

1/4 17.934 17.700 17.780

MPH 78.05 77.38 78.17



1st run I dropped the clutch at 4k. 2nd run I slipped the clutch at 6k. 3rd run I slipped the clutch at 6k, then chirped the tires into 2nd. Oh yeah, the third run was a bracket race, if that makes any difference.

djgiantrobot 05-27-2003 01:11 AM

it may have been a combination of those things, however the largest factor may be you unfortunately. Your 60ft times are just not very good. Practice practice. what tires are you running?

Dramon_Killer 05-27-2003 01:15 AM

ouchies, 11 second 0-60

kahren 05-27-2003 01:22 AM

yea practice teh launch 5-6 and slipping the clutch is pretty much what u have to do, i assume its a NA, and u shoudl get high 15s or low 16s on a stock car, but i think your 6 ports are stuck closed your mph is low.

FCmaniac 05-27-2003 06:28 AM

wow, that is bad, no offense... the mph seems extremely low though even for your altitude. Keep working on those 60 foot times with different launch rpm and clutch feel. Did you have any wheel hop??

rotary>piston 05-27-2003 06:20 PM

If I let the clutch in too quickly I'd get wheel hop rather than sliding.

After the 2nd run I checked the actuators and VDI, they both work fine. The compression on the engine is good for this altitude. Is there possibly something wrong with the engine? It has never failed to start (knock on wood), and pulls pretty strongly. I've actually raced my friend's s4 turbo boosting about 8-9 psi, and up to 90 mph he only pulled about 3 or so carlenths on me. He ran a 15.8 yesterday.

So am I really just that bad? I had a friend up there with a stock 96 auto cherokee running 17.5's, I also had worse times than a lot of complete POS trucks and crappy slow cars.

75 Repu 05-28-2003 10:35 AM

Last time I raced at the track I got 18.5 against a civic that ran a 16.8.. and I still won..I had a .7 reaction time..

vosko 05-28-2003 11:08 AM

i've run 15.98 with my old gtu

Rotaryman88 05-28-2003 06:28 PM

Yea...you need to bring your 60s down.



My buddy ran a 10.6 in his '91 Coupe(1/8th mile)...all we did was gut his cats...



before he could only run an 11.4..pretty close to ur 1/8th mile times. He had bad wheel hop and clogged cats. I told him to let air out of the tires and gut the cats...presto 10.6...which would have been a low 16...MAYBE even a high 15....in a mostly stock car...oh, and a k&n cone filter.

rotary>piston 05-28-2003 10:13 PM

Rotaryman88, where are you located? The altitude does make a big difference.

75 Repu 05-29-2003 10:22 AM

Yeah, altitude does make a difference.. if you run at sea level you will be faster too.. I ran 18.5 but using the conversion to sea level posted at LACR's website the time would actually be 17.9

Dramon_Killer 05-29-2003 01:25 PM

n/a's are 17 second cars?



I thought that they would run 16s stock. This is disturbing, because its lookin to be slower than my 90 Accord.

Nemesis 05-29-2003 02:04 PM

I think I can run the 1/4 mile faster than that....

pengaru 05-29-2003 02:06 PM

NA verts are probably 17 second cars.



NA coupes should be high 15 - low/mid 16 second cars, when running strong... driver is a big variable too.

75 Repu 05-29-2003 02:11 PM

on the Car and Driver test of the Vert when it was new it put down an 18.1, and it says it weighs 3050 lbs..

pengaru 05-29-2003 02:12 PM

yeah that weight is killing it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

75 Repu 05-29-2003 02:23 PM

Yup plus me..

rotary>piston 05-29-2003 06:04 PM

well, just to show you that it wasn't just me that sucked: An NSX ran a best of 15.3, then ran 16.0. A 2002 CBR600F4i ran a best time of 13.0. An S5 GXL ran a 19.0, then a 19.91. A 3000GT VR-4 ran a 17.1. Many AWD Turbo DSM's ran mid to high 16's. The list goes on.....

75 Repu 05-29-2003 06:10 PM

Yeah.. I was surprised to see that because of the height I lost .6 seconds.. That **** makes a big difference..

Apex13B 05-29-2003 09:12 PM

Shitty track factor also, e-town is fast. that is how vosko got a 15.9 (he can drive too)



I stayed with chainsawonsteriods GUTTED, straight piped gxl, I launched harder, lost by 1/2 a car

Dramon_Killer 05-30-2003 01:07 AM


Originally Posted by rotary>piston' date='May 29 2003, 03:04 PM
well, just to show you that it wasn't just me that sucked: An NSX ran a best of 15.3, then ran 16.0. A 2002 CBR600F4i ran a best time of 13.0. An S5 GXL ran a 19.0, then a 19.91. A 3000GT VR-4 ran a 17.1. Many AWD Turbo DSM's ran mid to high 16's. The list goes on.....

Those are some messed up times. So off that it almost wants to make me call BS, but dang those are bad.

FCmaniac 05-30-2003 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Apex13B' date='May 29 2003, 10:12 PM
Shitty track factor also, e-town is fast. that is how vosko got a 15.9 (he can drive too)



I stayed with chainsawonsteriods GUTTED, straight piped gxl, I launched harder, lost by 1/2 a car

E-town is a great track... especially when prepped for an event, I've gotten my best times there by far. I like MIR in Maryland too.

kahren 05-30-2003 01:06 PM

car and driver cant drag race, look at motor trends times...

Rotaryman88 05-30-2003 05:37 PM

Yea, i'm in VA and we use MD tracks...so we're close to sea level.



Never trust C&D times...they really cant drive! lol...



My SE in stock form did a 17.1 at best...the NAs are 16 second cars brand new...most of these cars are aged and you need to freshen them up before they can be faster again,lol..my SE had clogged cats and a bad clutch when i ran that 17.1...when I put my straight pipe on, k&n intake and new tires...it would have pulled a 16flat or under I'm sure....



(damn SEs having 185 tires stock)...

rotary>piston 05-30-2003 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by Dramon_Killer' date='May 29 2003, 10:07 PM
Those are some messed up times. So off that it almost wants to make me call BS, but dang those are bad.

It's really not BS. Remember, it was a high school drag day, so it was a bunch of people like me making crappy times. I'm just happy I'm not one of the 7-10 people that just stalled. I have to say though, that Black GXL had the WORST launches of the day. He almost stalled every time he went. Crap, that reminds me I wanted to find him and talk to him https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png

Mann 05-31-2003 07:08 AM

My 85 SE ran 15.6 at 86mph with headers/highflow cat/racingbeat muffler and a RX7.com intake. thats in Maryland.


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