Baldy

Good then!

Any thoughts on if I'm in any danger with my current setup of not having a cap on the rad? With the hose coming off the rad directly to the reservoir, is it serving any purpose?

USNALAX1

i use Stant caps there really good, just i've always had problems with the pressure release caps

j9fd3s

[quote name='Baldy' date='Apr 21 2005, 09:25 AM']I picked up the cap from Mazda on my lunch break, $24 and change after tax. I only have 1 cap on my entire system. Any experienced rotary guy who looks under my hood notices that something is not right with my radiator. At the top of the rad there is no cap; there's the coolant level sensor thingy, and there's the overflow tube, but no cap. It looks like someone did something to it, meaning it doesn't look stock. The only cap I have is at the t-stat, and I'd rather have it vent when heating rather than have something pop. I don't know if my overflow works properly coming straight from the rad.



and I confirmed, the mazda cap does say 0.9 on it.


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there are 4 different s4 cooling schemes.



early early: normal cap on the filler neck, no cap on the radiator, over flow by the coils



early w bulletin kit: this puts, the over flow tube thru the low coolant sensor, and a pressurized overflow in front of the radiator.



late early (middle? 87ish): over flow tank moved to the front of the radiator, normal radiator cap on the filler neck, w the overflow tube



late (88's): theres a cap on the radiator, over flow tube is also on the radiator, cap on the engine is just a filler cap.



all these parts mix and match so its possible to have an s4 fc with 3 radiator caps, 3 overflow hoses, and 2 overflow bottles. or you can go the other way and have none at all....

RevRex-7

[quote name='Baldy' date='Apr 21 2005, 09:25 AM']I picked up the cap from Mazda on my lunch break, $24 and change after tax. I only have 1 cap on my entire system. Any experienced rotary guy who looks under my hood notices that something is not right with my radiator. At the top of the rad there is no cap; there's the coolant level sensor thingy, and there's the overflow tube, but no cap. It looks like someone did something to it, meaning it doesn't look stock. The only cap I have is at the t-stat, and I'd rather have it vent when heating rather than have something pop. I don't know if my overflow works properly coming straight from the rad.



and I confirmed, the mazda cap does say 0.9 on it.


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I have that set up and found/fixed a leak of the upper plastic section of Thermostat housing, and the plastic pipe leading to the overflow tank was half broken. I am fixing it with epoxy.



My radiator got oxygen in itand alarmed the idiot light came and went for a couples days before I realized where the leak was.









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Baldy

I was wrong. There is the cap by the t-stat. There is a tube from the top of the radiator that goes to something in front of the radiator that has a cap on it, there's a threaded stud that keeps you from opening this cap. Then from there a hose goes to the overflow bottle.



So what's with the cap that's blocked from opening, should I change that cap as well?

CGeek2k

The cap in front is the overflow. It comes off the top of the rad to help vent air from the rad. This one is probably blocked from opening because that isnt where you are supposed to fill the system. If the system isnt pressurizing normally, you should probably change that cap though. The flat cap on the water pump neck shouldnt have a pressure rating. It shouldnt have a spring on it at all.

Baldy

So I guess I can take my new pressure-rated cap, put it on the overflows thingy, and get a flat cap for the fill neck?

1988RedT2

[quote name='Baldy' date='Apr 22 2005, 12:18 PM']So I guess I can take my new pressure-rated cap, put it on the overflows thingy, and get a flat cap for the fill neck?


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I would say yes. Put the pressure release cap at the overflow location and put a flat cap at the filler neck. You don't want the pressure release cap at a location that doesn't have a provision for overflow, or you'll just lose coolant.

Baldy

Cool. Yeah, evidently that's exactly what had happened.

j9fd3s

someone make this a faq, or remind me.



odd cooling system part numbers:



86-88 t stat: 8af1-15-171a-9u (the 9u stands for they went to kragen)

86-88 water pump: 8af1-15-100b, although they are swtiching to a shitty reman

86-88 o ring between filler cap and thermostat cover: n326-15-174

86-88 filler cap adaptor with overflow: n326-15-17ya

86-88 filler cap adaptor without overflow: n323-15-17y

aluminum filler cap adaptor without over flow: n3c1-15-175

86-88 upper radiator hose: n326-15-186b

86-88 lower radiator hose: n326-15-185b



89-91 thermostat housing: n350-15-172

86-91 thermostat : 8af6-15-171

89-91 upper radiator hose: n350-15-186

89-91 lower hose : n350-15-185





heater hose under oil filter: fb03-61-211 or fb01-61-211c, same hose 2 part numbers.

firewall to heater pipe: fb01-61-212b

heater pipe to radiator: fb01-61-213