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vosko 09-19-2002 11:06 PM

well this is the first post in here. i am planning on putting a 20B into my TII. i am starting to gather parts. first part i have is a TEC III setup for a 20B now i just $10k more in parts and i'm ready to go https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

89 Rag 09-19-2002 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Sep 19 2002, 10:06 PM
well this is the first post in here. i am planning on putting a 20B into my TII. i am starting to gather parts. first part i have is a TEC III setup for a 20B now i just $10k more in parts and i'm ready to go https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Ill bet you need a loan https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

sorry man i had to... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

vosko 09-19-2002 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by 89 Rag' date='Sep 20 2002, 12:08 AM
[quote name='vosko' date='Sep 19 2002, 10:06 PM']well this is the first post in here. i am planning on putting a 20B into my TII. i am starting to gather parts. first part i have is a TEC III setup for a 20B now i just $10k more in parts and i'm ready to go https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Ill bet you need a loan https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

sorry man i had to... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif[/quote]

look at my sig !!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

Turbo II 09-19-2002 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Sep 19 2002, 11:13 PM
[quote name='89 Rag' date='Sep 20 2002, 12:08 AM'][quote name='vosko' date='Sep 19 2002, 10:06 PM']well this is the first post in here. i am planning on putting a 20B into my TII. i am starting to gather parts. first part i have is a TEC III setup for a 20B now i just $10k more in parts and i'm ready to go https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Ill bet you need a loan https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

sorry man i had to... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif[/quote]

look at my sig !!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif[/quote]

LOL, a loan for the 10 grand he means

vosko 09-19-2002 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo II' date='Sep 20 2002, 12:28 AM
[quote name='vosko' date='Sep 19 2002, 11:13 PM'][quote name='89 Rag' date='Sep 20 2002, 12:08 AM'][quote name='vosko' date='Sep 19 2002, 10:06 PM']well this is the first post in here. i am planning on putting a 20B into my TII. i am starting to gather parts. first part i have is a TEC III setup for a 20B now i just $10k more in parts and i'm ready to go https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Ill bet you need a loan https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

sorry man i had to... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif[/quote]

look at my sig !!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif[/quote]

LOL, a loan for the 10 grand he means[/quote]

i want a sponsor not a loan.... http://www.voskoracing.com https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Turbo II 09-19-2002 11:33 PM

well, he just got a **** load of money handed to him. if i win the lotto ill sponsor u

vosko 09-19-2002 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo II' date='Sep 20 2002, 12:33 AM
well, he just got a **** load of money handed to him. if i win the lotto ill sponsor u

sounds good to me :bigok:

Turbo II 09-19-2002 11:36 PM

lol what r the chances of that happening.

89 Rag 09-19-2002 11:44 PM

Corksport has a 20B sitting on the floor and Pineallple has one @ his shop too. Im down to help, but like i said man, wait till I have it in my hands https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



I thinking, if it works out, to grab a package deal on two, cause I want one to stuff in a TII chassis as well. Maybe a warranty wouldnt be a bad idea as well, Ive heard you have bad luck w/ Jspecs https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

Turbo II 09-19-2002 11:45 PM

yeah mazdatrix has one sitting there too

vosko 09-19-2002 11:49 PM

the good thing about my TII. its basically ready for a 20B..... i have almost everything it needs besides the actual engine, motor mounts some other little stuff https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Turbo II 09-19-2002 11:52 PM

good luck

j9fd3s 09-20-2002 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Turbo II' date='Sep 19 2002, 09:52 PM
good luck

its easy...





mike

Turbo II 09-20-2002 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Sep 20 2002, 11:51 AM
[quote name='Turbo II' date='Sep 19 2002, 09:52 PM']good luck

its easy...





mike[/quote]

wanna do it for me?

sidewinderx7 09-20-2002 01:00 PM

Is is really as difficult as people say it is? I mean, understandably its not gonna be the easiest, but is it really all that scary?

j9fd3s 09-20-2002 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by sidewinderx7' date='Sep 20 2002, 11:00 AM
Is is really as difficult as people say it is? I mean, understandably its not gonna be the easiest, but is it really all that scary?

once you figure everything out, its not hard at all. you have to relearn things, the 20b is different.



mike

turbovr6 09-20-2002 01:49 PM

Remember Vosko, we have that full cosmo clip sitting just a few miles away from my house ready to be bought https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

treceb 09-20-2002 01:54 PM

look for all my insignificant questions to arise. thanks to all who responded to my poll.

as soon as you guys get to posting info ill be able to make a more assertive decision.

i wish i could get my car to move like that 20B AE86, but then again...

Turbo II 09-20-2002 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by treceb' date='Sep 20 2002, 01:54 PM
look for all my insignificant questions to arise. thanks to all who responded to my poll.

as soon as you guys get to posting info ill be able to make a more assertive decision.

i wish i could get my car to move like that 20B AE86, but then again...

theres a 20b corolla out there?

Fd3BOOST 09-20-2002 02:18 PM

PFS has two sitting onthe floor rigjht now just waiting...

13BAce 09-20-2002 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Sep 19 2002, 09:32 PM
[quote name='Turbo II' date='Sep 20 2002, 12:28 AM'][quote name='vosko' date='Sep 19 2002, 11:13 PM'][quote name='89 Rag' date='Sep 20 2002, 12:08 AM'][quote name='vosko' date='Sep 19 2002, 10:06 PM']well this is the first post in here. i am planning on putting a 20B into my TII. i am starting to gather parts. first part i have is a TEC III setup for a 20B now i just $10k more in parts and i'm ready to go https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Ill bet you need a loan https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

sorry man i had to... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif[/quote]

look at my sig !!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif[/quote]

LOL, a loan for the 10 grand he means[/quote]

i want a sponsor not a loan.... http://www.voskoracing.com https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png[/quote]

I lend you $10,000 in 6 months at 5% daily interest, compounded continuously. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

Twin89Stangs 09-20-2002 03:33 PM

lol had to give a whats up in this forum! haha



Good luck Vosko... 9,999 dollars to go!

Turbo III 09-20-2002 05:37 PM

Have fun with your conversion... and good luck with your budget https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

vosko 09-20-2002 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo III' date='Sep 20 2002, 06:37 PM
Have fun with your conversion... and good luck with your budget https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

well it will probably be more but that would be with me and my friends doing all the work there is ZERO labor.... by then maybe i'll figure out how to rebuild and port https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

amp 09-20-2002 08:01 PM

of all the above mentioned 20bs

which ones are for sale and if they provide no lead...

who knows where i can get one...

j9fd3s 09-20-2002 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by amp' date='Sep 20 2002, 06:01 PM
of all the above mentioned 20bs

which ones are for sale and if they provide no lead...

who knows where i can get one...

i think they are all for sale. i got mine from www.fc3s.org, but i found like 5 others (this was january), ranging from disassembled to still in japan. i bought the one i could get next week...



mike

OKIERX-7 09-21-2002 05:10 AM

Hell yeah, I've been thinking about taking on a 20B conversion myself. Even though I just did the turbo conversion, my car just doesn't look the same anymore knowing there are 20B FC's out there.



I just wish I could luck upon some poor fd w/ a blown engine and dump a shitload of money into a 20B FD. Man that would be the ****! I really wanna buy a j-spec FD and smuggle it across the border from C. America or the bahamas.



How many 20B FD's are there. The only ones I can think of are the TKT's.

vosko 09-21-2002 09:28 AM

a 20B in a FD is alot more work.....

13BAce 09-21-2002 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Sep 21 2002, 07:28 AM
a 20B in a FD is alot more work.....

Yeah, most people who want to do the conversion never could.

1Revvin7 09-21-2002 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Sep 21 2002, 12:28 PM
[quote name='vosko' date='Sep 21 2002, 07:28 AM']a 20B in a FD is alot more work.....

Yeah, most people who want to do the conversion never could.[/quote]

why is that?

OKIERX-7 09-21-2002 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Sep 21 2002, 11:28 AM
[quote name='vosko' date='Sep 21 2002, 07:28 AM']a 20B in a FD is alot more work.....

Yeah, most people who want to do the conversion never could.[/quote]

Yeah, That's what I keep hearing. I know the engine bay is alot smaller. I'm sure there are more issues than just that though.



I recall reading somewhere that the PFS TKT 20B FD cost around $100,000 to build, not counting the cost of the car. If its that much work for a professional rotary shop to do. It really must be tough.



But it would still be really sweet B) It's more along the lines of a fantasy car for me, rather than something I'd actually attempt.

13BAce 09-21-2002 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Sep 21 2002, 10:46 AM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Sep 21 2002, 12:28 PM'][quote name='vosko' date='Sep 21 2002, 07:28 AM']a 20B in a FD is alot more work.....

Yeah, most people who want to do the conversion never could.[/quote]

why is that?[/quote]

They usually have no idea as to how involved it is. An FD conversion takes alot more work than an FC.

13BAce 09-21-2002 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by OKIERX-7' date='Sep 21 2002, 12:00 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Sep 21 2002, 11:28 AM'][quote name='vosko' date='Sep 21 2002, 07:28 AM']a 20B in a FD is alot more work.....

Yeah, most people who want to do the conversion never could.[/quote]

Yeah, That's what I keep hearing. I know the engine bay is alot smaller. I'm sure there are more issues than just that though.



I recall reading somewhere that the PFS TKT 20B FD cost around $100,000 to build, not counting the cost of the car. If its that much work for a professional rotary shop to do. It really must be tough.



But it would still be really sweet B) It's more along the lines of a fantasy car for me, rather than something I'd actually attempt.[/quote]

I think that they charge about $36K for the full conversion, minus the car, but it's VERY comprehensive. You'll have a true supercar--fast AND somewhat reliable--at a good price.



You could do it yourself for less if you just want the motor, but it will take some time to get it right. Maybe one day one of us will try it. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

bigtime 09-21-2002 03:08 PM

36k!!! WTF!

amp 09-21-2002 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Sep 21 2002, 01:46 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Sep 21 2002, 12:28 PM'][quote name='vosko' date='Sep 21 2002, 07:28 AM']a 20B in a FD is alot more work.....

Yeah, most people who want to do the conversion never could.[/quote]

why is that?[/quote]

check out an e-bay of an FD...if you were to add another housing...youll definitely be requiring additional space...as it is now..its quite dense

a 20b conversion will require either one of two scenarios:

.....cut into the firewall to create the space...where the compensation takes place is where im not sure...the tranny will ultimately end up further back than where it is now...this is the ideal setup as the disturbance of the weight distribution is minimal...if anything, may make it ideal..

.....or create the room via repositioning or repiping of components that are in the way ...like an ic...resulting in more weight in the front..ng

amp 09-21-2002 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Sep 20 2002, 12:06 AM
.....i am planning on putting a 20B into my TII.....

does this mean the 13b is for sale....

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Turbo III 09-22-2002 09:08 AM

Just curious Vosko, how are you going to tackle the front sway bar and dual thermostat issues? That for me took a lot of time to get it to work out. Or are you going to use a 13B front cover? Cheaper and easier but the cooling capability scared me too much so I kept the 20B water pump.

vosko 09-22-2002 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Turbo III' date='Sep 22 2002, 10:08 AM
Just curious Vosko, how are you going to tackle the front sway bar and dual thermostat issues? That for me took a lot of time to get it to work out. Or are you going to use a 13B front cover? Cheaper and easier but the cooling capability scared me too much so I kept the 20B water pump.

this is all in the thinking stages........ i have to pay off my FD first which is gonna take a while. since mike(J9FD3S) has his running. i figure i can just ask him how he did it and copy him https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

j9fd3s 09-22-2002 10:10 AM

i'm using the stock water pump and tstat too.



mike

1Revvin7 09-22-2002 10:15 AM

20B that would be nice! I could only dream, maybe when im in my 20's after the service i could attempt it.


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