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Old 07-09-2005, 08:18 PM
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What kind of radiator do you have for it? And how much for the pump, lines, and radiator?



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Old 07-09-2005, 11:53 PM
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Ron Davis made the radiator to my specs, but its not for sale. Sorry.
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How much for the whole car?
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What all is included in the cooling system and how much? You can email me if you want to destinhinton@hotmail.com. Thanks.



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Old 07-10-2005, 08:19 PM
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-Everything can be for sale. PM me an offer on the whole car.





-If the "whole car" is not sold, the cooling system is not available. However, I could duplicate the cooling system for about $3,000.
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Old 07-11-2005, 01:07 AM
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$350 for a meizer pump

$500 for a custom radiator

$300 for lines

Water reservoir $xx



I'm not even remotly seeing $3g's. Can you give a list of parts?



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Old 07-11-2005, 09:18 AM
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That's o.k. , I get that alot. Very few "crafters" have actually experienced the cost in building full race cars. Its the details that run up the cost well beyond the typical mods. that are adequate for street. Ron Davis does very few things for $500, but Fluidyne, or BeCool does. Making dash (-20) fittings and lines is the business to be in, ($140+ for just the top elbo), and custom fabricated and milled engine plate, and mounting brackets cost more than the price of the aluminum plate stock. I actually had two guys (while standing next to the car) think long and hard ( about 20min.) if they should go halves ($6,000 each) on buying what they thought was the entire car! Why would anyone spend $28,000 on a new RX-8 when they could buy a new Chevy Cobalt for $17,000. They both are new cars.
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Old 08-30-2005, 09:45 AM
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bump for a really good deal on as good a 20b as you will find anywhere...



i bought Roger Mandeville's IMSA RS RX3sp in 82 after looking at Jim Downing and Joe Varde's 3s. after converting it to GT3 SCCA spec i campaigned it in the very competitive CENDIV and won 27 Nats including the June Sprints and placed 2nd, 2 thirds and 2 4ths at the Runoffs. Roger continued to build my motors.



during 1984 i sat on the pole in 9 of 12 National races. at the 1984 Runoffs after 2 days of practice and 2 days of qualifying ( 3rd on the grid) i asked Roger if we should throw the other fresh motor in the car for the race... the motor in the car had run the whole season, he said not unless we just wanted something to do. after the entire season it ran second. the only car to beat me was David Vegher in a Lotus Elan as high as your knees. the following year SCCA bumped him to GT2 and added weight to his car. we held lap records at Road America, Mid Ohio, IRP, Brainerd and Blackhawk Farms.



Roger Mandeville won the 1979 and 1981 IMSA RS Series titles amongst 50 car fields and placed second to Jim Downing in 1980. Roger is also responsible for the majority of Mazda's over 100 wins against Porsche in the IMSA GTU and GTO class.



Roger and his wife Nancy are as classy as any people i have had the pleasure of meeting during my life. you can take anything Roger or Nancy say to the bank.



someone is going to wake up and realize what an extraordinary deal this is on an extraordinary piece of iron.



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I also think this is a good deal. The cost of my Mandeville short block alone was a couple grand shy of the package above.
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