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Old 02-19-2011, 12:48 PM
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my car is not getting any better. I did an oil change and specifically did not fill it up to all the way full so i could see if there was indeed something leaking into there which there is. My coolant level is not dropping and i don't have a leak in my transmission underneath (I checked when i changed my oil yesterday). Yet for some reason im still smoking a thick white smoke. It doesn't smell sweet in any way. There was condensation in the exhaust tips and when i tasted it, it didn't taste sweet in any way either. Tasted just like normal water. Same goes for the condensation on the oil filler cap. I know you guys have told me tranny fluid can't get into the combustion but it is some way, some how. IM NOT LOSING MY MIND. I'm getting really really aggravated because i don't know what to do. Is there a transmission breather that maybe vents into the carb or something? I also have another question, when i put my exhaust on, there was a pipe that went from the cat to the carb area. The kit came with a plate to block that off but i didn't put it on cuz before getting the exhaust it sort of detatched itself from the cat due to rust. Would that being open to the outside air cause me to have a rich mixture? If anyone can help me with anything at all i would be forever in your debt. Im on my knees begging because i don't have too much money (im a college kid) and can't afford to take things apart to not fix the actual problem. Thank you in advance for any input you guys may have.
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Old 02-19-2011, 01:56 PM
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with out sounding like too much of a dick here , put a motor in it because it seems that is what answer to your questions are. there is no way atf can get into the motor from the trans. the smoke is due to worn internals, my s5 did that alot on cold and hot starts when the oil control rings went and the side seals where worn.
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so u think i could just do a rebuild and i would be straight?
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posible but finding 12a rotor housings is getting hard to do
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Old 02-19-2011, 03:02 PM
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whats the likelyhood that my housings are shot too though? It's only got 74k on it, ive done oil changes every 3k or less since ive had it and ive always warmed it up for like 5 minutes at least in the winter. The only thing i could think of it being messed up was cuz i gave it to some guy to get body work done and he didn't know i had a choke and idk how he got the thing started and my guess is he sat there revving it at 2-3k until it warmed up. Would it be more reasonable for me to just get a rebuilt 13b and swap it in there? I'd just need to find another tranny.
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If you can swap, do it but keep the old one to practice rebuilding on. Try checking vacuum leaks till you an find an engine. Although in reality vacuum leaks cause an engine to run lean. Has anyone suggested fuel control? I'm not the most knowledgable about the fb but I know they have an electric fuel pump running to a carb. They have to have some sort of pressure regulator, otherwise fuel would be pouring out of the carb causing a rich condition, white smokey fuel smelling exhaust (more fuel smell than normal anyways), fuel to get into the oil, and a bogging and resistance to accelerate unless the pedal is floored, and will cause the plugs to foul.
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If you have an automatic, there absolutely is a vacuum line from the intake to the transmission. It connects to the vacuum modulator on the side of the tranny. The first one I ever had fail was on my '73 RX-2. I also had one go bad on a '76 Cutlass. There was no cat on the RX-2, and the result was billowing white smoke at idle (high manifold vacuum pulls a lot of fluid). On the '76 Cutlass, the cat took care of the smoke, and I didn't know I had a problem until the plugs started fouling and the tranny started shifting funny. Replace your vacuum modulator!
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Lol I'm glad you posted that, I had never seen something like that on a car and poor blandly has been having this issue for awhile.
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+1 1988RedT2



The vacuum modulator is exactly what it is! Replace it! I have a 91' Vert with the same problem.
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Originally Posted by thatpoorguy
Lol I'm glad you posted that, I had never seen something like that on a car and poor blandly has been having this issue for awhile.


I guess I need to stick my head in here more often!
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