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Old 02-21-2003, 09:05 PM
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Will you use the stock gauges, or aftermarket?

The way I see it , is, use the dash gauges with the

original wiring harness and senders for the car. Nice

and stock. Add the Boost and A/F as necessary to

enhance the info you need when you drive. And DON'T

forget the Oil level I D 10 T light!



Then, under the hood, I am going to run a full

mechanical set for tuning purposes. Minus the boost

and tach.

my thoughts....
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Originally Posted by Directfreak' date='Feb 21 2003, 07:02 PM
My layout:



"A" Pillar:

Boost

Fuel Pressure



On Steering Column:

J & S Knock Sensor (Also Rich/Lean)

Shift Light



On Center Console:

Rich/Lean - Where factory Clock was



Under Stereo:

Oil Pressure

EGT - Exhaust Temp

Water Temp



In the Glove-box:

Wideband O2 Sensor
Thats a pimp interior you have.That panel under the steering wheel gives a sleeper effect when it hangs like that.
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Old 02-22-2003, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Racer X' date='Feb 21 2003, 02:32 PM
the 83 cluster will work fine. i like electrical guages except for the boost guage, then i like mechanical. with mechanical guages you have to plum oil or coolant into the car, and that doesnt exactly seem like fun



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Hey mike,How much of the main harness do I keep?How do I wire it to a FB cluster?I know the guages are run off the oil pan sensors and the alternator is run off the stock wiring as well but what about the coils?I see the plugs for them on the harness but that harness is from the ECU to the dash to every other part of the car including the rear hatch and front horns.Damn chris32472 never updated his site so I am clueless on this main harness I have.Also theres this stupid metal box with a connection on it and is part of the engine harnees.IS it nesscessary?I never saw this thing before.The driveline is 88 T2.Thanks



~Luis [/quote]

the cool thing about the s4 is that the ecu doesnt freak about anything, so you can wire up the stuff you want and ignore the rest. all the guages function the same so you just need to find the sender wires and hook 'em up



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Old 02-22-2003, 05:02 AM
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Sweet. You guys more than answered my questions, thanks. I've seen a couple of cars with the boost guage in the air duct now, seems like the thing to do. I'll most likely be running autometer guages, they seem to have a HUGE range and also seem good quality.

That is a pimp interior. I wanted to get a-pillar guage mounts, but I need right-hand drive ones and I haven't had any luck finding them here in Australia.
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Check the JAPANESE sites, they're all RHD.
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Check this:

Japaneese "Hypertuning" site

I found this:
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Originally Posted by Directfreak' date='Feb 21 2003, 10:02 PM
My layout:



"A" Pillar:

Boost

Fuel Pressure



On Steering Column:

J & S Knock Sensor (Also Rich/Lean)

Shift Light



On Center Console:

Rich/Lean - Where factory Clock was



Under Stereo:

Oil Pressure

EGT - Exhaust Temp

Water Temp



In the Glove-box:

Wideband O2 Sensor
where did u get the "A" pillar pod thing from??
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Originally Posted by treceb' date='Feb 23 2003, 01:45 AM
where did u get the "A" pillar pod thing from??


It's an Autometer 2nd Gen one. It fits almost perfect from the factory. 2 Minutes with a heat Gun, and it did fit perfectly.



Thats a pimp interior you have.That panel under the steering wheel gives a sleeper effect when it hangs like that.


Damn. Cold.



I wasn't finished with the wiring at the time of that pic.
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Feb 21 2003, 10:15 PM
[quote name='Racer X' date='Feb 21 2003, 02:32 PM'] the 83 cluster will work fine. i like electrical guages except for the boost guage, then i like mechanical. with mechanical guages you have to plum oil or coolant into the car, and that doesnt exactly seem like fun



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Hey mike,How much of the main harness do I keep?How do I wire it to a FB cluster?I know the guages are run off the oil pan sensors and the alternator is run off the stock wiring as well but what about the coils?I see the plugs for them on the harness but that harness is from the ECU to the dash to every other part of the car including the rear hatch and front horns.Damn chris32472 never updated his site so I am clueless on this main harness I have.Also theres this stupid metal box with a connection on it and is part of the engine harnees.IS it nesscessary?I never saw this thing before.The driveline is 88 T2.Thanks



~Luis [/QUOTE]

the cool thing about the s4 is that the ecu doesnt freak about anything, so you can wire up the stuff you want and ignore the rest. all the guages function the same so you just need to find the sender wires and hook 'em up



mike [/quote]

I stole this from chris' site. Which do I use then to get this thing running when I get the car?Will I lose power from not having them all hooked up?



Look at the plug as it were pluged in the ECU.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

| B/Y | BR/Y| BR/R| W | L/B | L/R | B/R | B/L | G/B | L/O | BR/Y| Y/B |

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

| L/Y | G/Y | R | LG | L | G | Y/L | O | BR | L/W | Y | Y/R |

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Upper bank from left to right



B/Y - Hazard Heat swith

BR/Y - Trailing coil ignitor

BR/R - Port air solinoid valve

W - 1st Crank sensor,These 4 wires are (Big Gray wire sheilded) and grounded

L/B - Service light

L/R - Coil trailing

B/R - Shift light

B/L - Split air solinoid valve

G/B - Nutral switch

L/O - Fan relay

BR/Y - Air bypass

Y/B - Check conector



Lower bank



L/Y - Coil ignitor trailing

G/Y - Coil ignitor leading

R - 2nd Crank sensor

LG - Knock controll

L - 3rd Crank sensor

G - 4th Crank sensor

Y/L - Clutch switch

O - Check conector

BR - Water temp

L/W - Air con main relay

Y - Check conector

Y/R - Check conector



Could you PM me the info on these wires that I need to hook up and which ones I don't mike?



Thanks a million.Damn I wish that guy would atleast update the wiring part of his page. I need to figure out what can and can't be pulled off the main harness.Where does this harness tap into on the FB wiring?



Thanks

~Luis
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One more thing......do I wire the coils to the FC's ECU setup or just wire them to the FBs wiring for the coils?



Thanks

~Luis







BTW: I know this must be annoying for you but I need this info so I can share it with others like drifter when his time comes.
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