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drifter 01-19-2003 10:42 AM

I decided to remove my 12a from the 84 today, but I ran into a little trouble. After I undid all the bolts, from the tranny and engine, etc I started to pull it up, but it didn't wanna let the tranny go. So I mounted it back up and looked in the hayes manual, which says I have to undo some bolts in the torque converter. I can feel 2 bolts behind the big metal cog, but I'm not sure they will come out that easy with the whole restricted hole access.

Does anyone have any exp with this? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

TIA. :bigthumg:

PS Its auto.(for the mo :smirk: )

Hereonout 01-19-2003 10:56 AM

Disconnected the driveshaft.....just get underneath and look is all i can say?

drifter 01-19-2003 11:03 AM

The engine should just part from the tranny without having to touch the driveshaft. You can get the engine out leaving the tranny in the car, apparently. Just before the tranny sump, where the tranny mates with the engine, the torque converter lives apparently. Through the small access hole, your suppossed to undo the bolts, but they're behind a big metal cog, which makes it kinda hard to get to them. I think I'm gonna need a weird-ass wrench to get to it.

j9fd3s 01-19-2003 11:57 AM

yup you gotta unblot those bolts, or you could pull the engine and tranny at the same time



mike

Stripgear 01-19-2003 03:34 PM

There are four bolts that hold the flex plate to the torque converter.

You have to remove one, then rotate the engine until you can get

to the next one. Do this until all four bolts are removed, then you can

pull the tranny.

Hereonout 01-19-2003 09:02 PM

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drifter 01-20-2003 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Stripgear' date='Jan 20 2003, 05:34 AM
There are four bolts that hold the flex plate to the torque converter.

You have to remove one, then rotate the engine until you can get

to the next one. Do this until all four bolts are removed, then you can

pull the tranny.

Well, I just want everyone to know that I spent the whole f**king day trying to unbolt the 4 bolts connecting the flex plate to the torque converter. I found another access hole at the top and started undoing them. Talk about tight! I managed to get three off, without too much trouble, apart from having a sore arm, but the last bolt had to be one of those ones that never comes off. After different spanners, multi-grips and some $40 high-tech shifter from sweden, the bolt was well and truly rounded.

So, I figured I had to get it off regardless of the consequences (pulling the tranny out at the same time is not an option). So, like any other sane man, I got out the mini-hacksaw and proceded to saw the nut off the bolt. Then when most of the head was off, I grabbed my cordless and some grinding stones and ground away the remnants of the head till it was all loose and ready to come off.

Tomorrow is the day the 12a is reefed out onto the engine stand. Hooray :bigthumg:

drifter 01-20-2003 09:22 AM

This is a picture of me hacksawing the bolt head. My friend insisted on this photo so that we could laugh at it later. Feel free to laugh now.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/alines/rx.../mehacksaw.jpg



This is where the head of the bolt has been removed. I may have scratched around the bolt slightly. :redface:

http://home.iprimus.com.au/alines/rx...oltremoved.jpg

j9fd3s 01-20-2003 10:34 AM

dude, i feel your pain



mike

Racer X 01-21-2003 01:08 AM

Looks like as much fun as when I first pulled my POS 12a out.Are you converting to a 12a with a manual tranny after the resto is done for awhile?

drifter 01-21-2003 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Racer X' date='Jan 21 2003, 03:08 PM
Looks like as much fun as when I first pulled my POS 12a out.Are you converting to a 12a with a manual tranny after the resto is done for awhile?

I probably will go either straight to a 13B or hopefully 20B with manual transmission after I get all the rust out. Sounds crazy I know, but I can't be arsed pulling engines in and out. The plan is to drive it sedately on the street and hard on the track for about 6 months so I build up some experience for handling the power. I don't plan on trying to kill myself. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

drifter 01-21-2003 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jan 21 2003, 12:34 AM
dude, i feel your pain



mike

Yeah, whats more painful is when after you find the metal plate holding the engine to the tranny that you missed when undoing the main bolts, and undo it, and it comes apart really easily, then you find that those nasty f**king four bolts that caused you a nightmare didn't HAVE to be undone, cause the torque converter slides out of the tranny. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

Racer X 01-21-2003 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by drifter' date='Jan 21 2003, 06:11 AM
[quote name='j9fd3s' date='Jan 21 2003, 12:34 AM'] dude, i feel your pain



mike

Yeah, whats more painful is when after you find the metal plate holding the engine to the tranny that you missed when undoing the main bolts, and undo it, and it comes apart really easily, then you find that those nasty f**king four bolts that caused you a nightmare didn't HAVE to be undone, cause the torque converter slides out of the tranny. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png [/quote]

Sounds like when I first did the engine pull on my car.First Rx I own and plan to keep it till it becomes one with the soil. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png I had know clue where all the bolts were to take the engine out on a rotary car.Now its easy as pie. :smirk: I still need to tackle the body and pull the interior out to see how bad it might be inside the car


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