im going to look at a red 85 gslse today, what should i look for?



its got tan leather, wood grain, stock stereo, pretty much appears to be all stock. 215k miles. it turns over but wont start.



im already gonna be sure to check compression and spark and see if theres any fuel... what else should i look at? its been sitting for a few months, like 3 or 4.

you should look at the molding with a screwdriver, and then look at me as you hand it over https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

tan leather? thats not stock. get pics

yeah im takin the old ladies new digi cam, the pics will be good, (haha old lady). the guy couldnt remember what color the interior was and finally made tan his final decision. maybe its brown? i really hope its not red, and black would be nice bc then it would match the vert.

if the outside is red then it could be either brown, red or grey. there's three different reds too.



the rh sunrise red, is the normal red, 90% of the time it comes with grey

the "brick red" i see it about 30/30/30 with red interior, brown, or grey

the burgandy red ive never seen with brown, seems to be about 70/30 with grey and red

the exterior is pretty bright so its prob sunrise red. as im thinking about it i think when i looked at the car it may have been red, but im really hoping its not

look out 4 rust under rear hatch

here it is:

so what color is the interior? why is it brown under the hood?

the body is pretty good, a few dings on the pass. door. the paint is dull all over, oxidized on the roof, and cracked at the back, wax would make it look a lot better. the tail lights are missing the covers on both sides. the hatch latch is missing, but the hatch was dry and its been raining here. the weather stripping on the doors is not too good and the carpet is a little damp at the edges. the interior is overall pretty good, its maroon leather. the seats are good, the drivers is split on the bottom, but not too badly. the hatch carpet is pretty dirty but not torn or anything, the compartment lids are off and i dont know if theyll go back on easily.



ok so it wont start. there is spark at every plug. when i pulled the plugs out, (just pulled the trailings) they are dripping with gas/oil. not a lot of oil but it was there. also, when i pulled the plug out, on each housing, the gas/oil runs out of the hole a little, keep in mind that this is on the trailing plugs. the engine is very very flooded. the plugs arent that old and they are black. the plugs are ngk but they dont look like the ones i use, they look more like a normal plug, but the ones with 4 things on top, like the bosch platinum ones. anyway i didnt know where the egi fuse was so i didnt try to unflood it, plus i didnt want the guy to see it start if it was that easy. each rotor has good, even compression, yay! i think thats about it except the pics.



the pic of the engine that has the white circle could be a problem. that nipple on that thing(i dont know what the thing is) doesnt have anything on it, is this normal? the green one next to it looks just the same except it has a hose on that nipple. when you crank the car, fuel, not much, comes out of here. he said that nothing was connected there and that he thought thats what the problem was. the last time the car ran he said he pulled into the driveway and it started running weird and it either died or he killed it and now it wont start, basically i guess that just means that its probably not only flooded. he left the key in the car and ill prob go back tomorrow to try to start it or work on it some more. the good thing is that its at his ex wifes house so hes not there.





p.s. ive got more pics if you guys want em, im on dialup and the pics are hi res.



p.s.s. i may have left some stuff out, just ask and if i know ill tell you.

the car may have been brown, it def had a repaint that wasnt so great.

oh if fuel comes out of the fuel pressure solenoid then the fuel pressure regulator is bad, that will basically make the car not run.



the spark plugs are correct for a 1st gen, they have 4 prongs

ok so what do i do to fix it? what do i replace and that kind of stuff? the plugs are very fouled and i will replace them next time i go to mess with it. they arent that old but they are bad.

no one knows about the fuel pressure regulator? ill dl the fuel section of the fsm tonight

its pretty simple, you also need the o rings and grommets for the injectors, as long as you're in there

so do i have to replace the regulator and the solenoid? where is the regulator?

solenoid is probably fine. just the regulator

ok thanks!

Looks good! I've got an ass of parts that i'm not going to use off of my 85. (including those tails) If you need anything, let me know, and i'll see about posting some specific pics.

yeah id like to know what youd want for the tails.



about the pressure reg, before i go taking off the dyn chamb would the car be flooded if the pressure reg wasnt working? the car is very very flooded.

does it make a difference that the pressure regulator solenoid is missing the plastic piece that goes on the nipple? theres one on my FC's, and it looks like there is one in the 85 fsm.

If you paid more than $250 for the car, you got robbed.

i didnt buy the car yet. any of the fb guys think i would be getting robbed if i paid $800 for it?

Blue book value for that car with those miles in fair condition is $975 for a private party sale. You can almost certainly wack the $800 asking price in half as an opening bid.

well he said hed take $1k for it, but im sure that was just his high offer. i just looked at autozone's site and the fuel pressure regulator is $80, plus it needs plugs so that will all come off of the price

i'd say 500, 600 max after seeing the pics.





like you said shane, the guy was a rotard , with the talk of how it revs up to 12k the odds are, he redlined it and kept going one day.



honestly, it would probably end up needing a rebuild somewhat soon.

well the compression is good.



can someone tell me where the egi fuse is, or whatever i need to remove to get it unflooded?

[quote name='Shane.Trammell' date='Jan 9 2005, 12:58 AM']

yeah id like to know what youd want for the tails.



Do you need the center, or just the tails? I cant post a pic from my digital cam here for some reason. I'm sure i can email one though.

if your cam takes jpegs you can post it, just go to the attachment box at the bottom of the "add reply" screen. i dont think i would need the center.





i think i just pull out the compartment behind the drivers seat to cut the fuel pump

i dont know what these cars are worth, i havent ever paid more than $300 for one that didnt run. i did pay $3000 for one that did run with everything on it once.



buy my silver one for $1500 it will make the drive to tx, or buy my grey one, it just needs to be put back together

No offense to the above, but if the body's in really good shape (no rust) (check the surround on the sunroof and the surround that the hatch rests in) it'll be worth it in the long run to pay upwards of $800.00 for the car. If you go cheap and buy a "bucket" you'll spend a hell of alot of $ on body work. As far as the tails, i'll try to post a pic this eve.

ok thanks, im going tomorrow to get it unflooded, how do i cut the fuel? i was gonna go today but the gf's rustang broke down again. i wanted to replace the plugs before unflooding but no one has them in stock, which is annoying. people at the parts stores kept telling me that they had autolite plugs for it for like $.99. i didnt know they made plugs for them, and im sure they arent high quality, but theyll work for trying to get it started i think.

you have to pull the drivers side bin and unplug the pump.

well thanks for the reply, but i was already gone! i unplugged that, the connector from the box beside it(just to be sure that wasnt what i was supposed to undo), and the injector jumper on the drivers strut tower. i guess it was severely flooded bc after some unflooding, coaxing, and a couple of acrobatic positions i got it going. it smoked for a while, from the exhaust, the back and somewhere around the exhaust mani. but it stopped after a few minutes.



the spark plugs are really bad, and i couldnt even see a spark from them when i was trying to test them. also, the smart guy has all 9eq 14 plugs on. are those the leading or trailing? i need to get some new ones bc it was missing a little.



i would have driven it but it has a flat tire, and i dont really want to move it until i buy it. along those same lines, i left the pump unplugged and the injector jumper undone a little so that he wont start it and not sell it. no one was at the house where i was working on it so know one knows that i got it started.

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif Good job! For some reason i'm not able to post pics from my sony cyber-shot here. I'm sure there's a way, but i can't figure it out. If you want, I can email you a pic of the tails.

yeah email would be fine. its gonna be great when/if i buy it. me and the owner will be there, ill plug the stuff in, start it up, and drive off. i cant wait to see the look on his face! his car has been sitting for 4 months for about 30 mins worth of work, not that he didnt work on it, just that he didnt try the simplest thing!

oh and theres no rust anywhere, and it rained last night and everything inside was dry.

ok i drove the car. everything is pretty good but a couple of things. first off, when i started it it smoked for a min or two, is this normal? it wasnt a whole lot of smoke. when you rev and decel there is a rattle from the exhaust (which isnt stock) that sounds like maybe one of the convertors.



ok for the driving, the only prob is that there is a clunky knocking from the front right when hitting bumpy parts in the road. i tried to recreate the sound with it stopped by bouncing that corner up and down but it didnt work. im sure its something in the susp., any ideas?

The smoking, Ive had this happen if my rx7 has been sitting for over a week. Rotarys like to be run, they don't like to sit there. So Id say a little smoke is normal if it goes away. What I would do if I was you is replace the control arm bushings. Ive had a problem with them myself and I replaced them and the car is as tight as ever. Carl

thanks for the input. the car hasnt been sitting for long, i ran it yesterday for the first time in 3-4 months.