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how strong is a 85 series2 differential

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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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hi am a rebuilding a 85 rx7 with a 13b series 4 turbo engine it will make resonable power with a bridgeport turbo motor running big boost but am worried about the diif and gearbox, i have a nine inch and a earlly hilux diff,and a 8.8 but would like a rough idea what numbers i can push through the diff before destroying it as im not sure withe cog box either whether to run a c4 auto or a celica turbo box or go with the mazda series 4 turbo box, any help much appreciated,
Old Apr 24, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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i think it depends. people run 10's on the stock diff, but i broke one with the stock engine.



hows that for an answer?
Old Apr 24, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='815743' date='Apr 24 2006, 09:29 AM
i think it depends. people run 10's on the stock diff, but i broke one with the stock engine.
It also depends on which stock ring and pinion you have. There's a good thread on Mazspeed right now about 3.90 vs. 3.93 rearends and gear strengths.



http://www.mazspeed.com/forum/thread.php?t...id=44&styleid=1



I'm running the stock '83 GSL ring & pinion in my half-bridge and I haven't fragged it yet... but I am running 800 treadwear tires so it smokes 'em before it gets any real torque on the R&P.
Old Apr 24, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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This is a really touch and go subject. I think that J9fd3s hit it on the head. People seem to argue about this all the time.



I have heard that hard launches at about 350 will break it. I will let you know.



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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BeaterRX7' post='815758' date='Apr 24 2006, 08:32 AM

It also depends on which stock ring and pinion you have. There's a good thread on Mazspeed right now about 3.90 vs. 3.93 rearends and gear strengths.



http://www.mazspeed.com/forum/thread.php?t...id=44&styleid=1



I'm running the stock '83 GSL ring & pinion in my half-bridge and I haven't fragged it yet... but I am running 800 treadwear tires so it smokes 'em before it gets any real torque on the R&P.


yeah theres a thin and a thick one.



mine was a gsl-se 4.09, i had some wheel hop, and 235,000miles on it
Old Apr 24, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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I have heard that 84-85 gears are thinner due to noise complaints in the earlier diffs. I was putting 230whp through a stock 85 se diff, it finnally exploded due to a faulty setup. I was also on my 8th set of tires drifting a 1/2 mile oval track. talk about making your *** pucker, doing 80mph sidewalls then loose all power almost nail a wall.



Your best bet if you are going to use the stock gears is have new bearings installed, and have back lash set corretlly. I currently switched to 4.44 and have had no issues so far.
Old Apr 25, 2006 | 02:42 AM
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for the record 85 is series3 not 2
Old Apr 25, 2006 | 05:15 AM
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thanks all for your help ,it gives me an insight on what to expect, and which way to lean in the diff, i guess the cog box would be very similar then, thanks again as i thought it was a series2 but yeah is definatellly a 85year model, im just learing more about it as i just purchased it , i also own a rx4 coupe which will be done soon so this one will be a learing curve for it
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