1st Generation Specific 1979-1985 Discussion

First Gen Starting Problem

Old 12-10-2001, 03:49 PM
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I'm having yet more problems...fixed my overheating problem by replacing the thermostat hooked up to the radiator...but now I'm having starting problems...my engine is turning over but it doesn't want to start...and I hear a click noise every once in a while while I'm cranking her...almost sounds like someone banging metal...



I got my car started earlier...took her on about a 10-15 mile stretch after warmup...pulled back in...and turned her off

tried to start her back up and all she did was crank...no start



I know she's not flooded...could it be my starter or battery possibly?

My dad has dismissed the idea of my starter because it is still turning my motor over...but I havn't yet



Any ideas would be appreciated



thanks...Adam
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Old 12-10-2001, 03:54 PM
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Check you plugs first...
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Old 12-10-2001, 03:59 PM
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LOL, I was posting while the topic was moving.



Pull a spark plug, turn it over and see if you are getting spark. If you are then check and make sure you are getting fuel. Does it sound like it is barely turning over or is cranking as it should just not starting?



When you do actually get it running do you notice anything abnormal or do all systems seem to be normal?
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Old 12-10-2001, 04:57 PM
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yea...that had me baffled for a second...lol

couldn't figure how why it wouldn't let me post...



I sent this to you...but I'll post it here too just incase someone else knows what exactly is wrong



My engine is cranking as usual I think...sounds normal anyway...just doesn't want to start

It keeps almost starting and if I want it to start I have to give it gas once it begins to...or it dies

once she is warm she idles fine...took her out on the road and gave her the ole lead foot...no hesitation or anything



The only thing abnormal is that my front wipers are not working...not sure why that is tho...perhaps a fuse?



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Old 12-10-2001, 05:10 PM
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Honestly it sounds a little like when my coild packs went TU on my 12A, but I would suggest finding the issue before replacing parts. I would check for spark, make sure you've got a good clean spark and good plugs, then check for fuel. Has been sitting or anything or did this just start?
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Old 12-10-2001, 06:59 PM
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I was getting a good spark not too long ago...but I guess I can always check again...A few weeks ago my car started starting funny...It would only start on one rotor...and run that way for 10 seconds to 30 seconds...then go ahead and fire up



I'm sure I'm getting PLENTY of fuel...I can certainly smell it...hehe...its not flooded tho...I'm sure...specially since it started earlier today



She hasn't been setting...I drive her to school every day...until now that is

Have to take the ugly ole boinger in...gag
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Old 12-10-2001, 07:23 PM
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Only one rotor was running? That's odd I would take a look at the plugs and check for spark. Honestly it is starting to sound a lot like when my coild packes went TU, but check it out and see what you've got.
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Old 12-10-2001, 11:34 PM
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How do you know its not flooded? IF you smell gas when your cranking and you don't see any on the ground, its not igniting the mixture in the chamber, its flooded. When its flooded, it will cause apparent low compression making starting very difficult as the oil is all diluted and will cause blowby and the oil to reek of gas, so check that too.



The plugs are probably fowled. Once they fowl out, you will allways have trouble starting it again with those plugs. Even if it seems to run right after its finally started, trust me, get new ones. This was apperent to me on two seperate occations, new plugs fixed the problem, started on first try every time. Also, remember to fully warm the engine before turning it off, allways! Thats the best way to avoid problems with starting. This is all too common a rotary requirement, fully warm it up if you choose to run it if for any reason. Probably be a good idea to change oil if it has been flooded, and not run often.
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Old 12-12-2001, 08:28 PM
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I got my battery and alternator tested...they both showed good...alternator showed 13.8 volts on their testing thingy...so i think I'm good to go



The guy at oreillys told me to clean my battery terminals...i guess all the fluids and crap from the radiator messed it up over the last month or so...seems to be doing the trick now...I'll tell you guys if anything else goes wrong



My next trick is to figure out why my front wiper fluid motor isn't coming on...cuz I tested the motor and it is good...fuse is good too...



It's the opposite on the back...I get fluid but no wiper anymore...fuses are all good too



guess its a ghost or something



thanks for the input guys
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Glad you got it fixed, is the washer pump not coming on at all, but tested fine? Might be the switch.



Thanks for the update
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