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Racer X 02-12-2003 11:53 PM

I would then the stock T2 shaft is too long and won't work with a FB rear.My question is what do you guys use?There enough of us here.I need to find a car to dump mine in to tho.



Thanks

~Luis

j9fd3s 02-13-2003 11:11 AM

i think they were having one made, i'm not really too sure. i'm lazy i was gonna have a mild engine and use the na tranny



mike

setzep 02-13-2003 05:16 PM

Custom drive shaft will have to be made :( $$$

Directfreak-custom

Mike-P-28-custom

AJC-13B-custom

Me-will be custom (don't have one yet)



But if you're real clever maybe you can find a way to adapt the T2 yoke to the FB shaft?? From what Mike says the driveshaft he had made is the same length as the regular FB one (which makes sence because the T2 trans is the same length as the n/a one).

Viperx7 02-13-2003 06:23 PM

Custom. :squint: Good thing about having one made though is you can have the shop install replaceable u-joints when they make it. Definately will save money down the road.

Racer X 02-13-2003 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by Viperx7' date='Feb 13 2003, 04:23 PM
Custom. :squint: Good thing about having one made though is you can have the shop install replaceable u-joints when they make it. Definately will save money down the road.

True that.Thanks.Hope my car turns out as good as yours. :bigthumg:

Racer X 02-14-2003 01:57 AM

Does anyone know the demensions needed to get one built? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

RX-Midget 02-14-2003 08:30 AM

FWIW:



I had to have a driveshaft made for my car and it was not very expensive. It only cost about $100 to have them me a drive shaft out of a 1st gen shaft. I had them mod the yokes for replaceable u-joints and balance it. I gave them the dimensions they needed and they cut the old tube off and installed a new tub the correct length.



You should be able to take the trans yoke from a T2 and the diff yoke you have and they should be able to just add the correct length tube.



check out Inland Empire driveline for some info at http://www.iedls.com/



I had mine done locally at Perry Hall Power Equipment in Maryland.

Racer X 02-14-2003 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by RX-Midget' date='Feb 14 2003, 06:30 AM
FWIW:



I had to have a driveshaft made for my car and it was not very expensive. It only cost about $100 to have them me a drive shaft out of a 1st gen shaft. I had them mod the yokes for replaceable u-joints and balance it. I gave them the dimensions they needed and they cut the old tube off and installed a new tub the correct length.



You should be able to take the trans yoke from a T2 and the diff yoke you have and they should be able to just add the correct length tube.



check out Inland Empire driveline for some info at http://www.iedls.com/



I had mine done locally at Perry Hall Power Equipment in Maryland.

Yeah thats my plan from the get go.As long as it does the job I don't care.Thanks RX-Midget



Luis

setzep 02-15-2003 01:15 PM

I just sent all my measurements off to that iedls.com place. If they send me back a quote I'll let you guys know.

Racer X 02-15-2003 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by setzep' date='Feb 15 2003, 11:15 AM
I just sent all my measurements off to that iedls.com place. If they send me back a quote I'll let you guys know.

cool. :bigthumg: Measurements and prices can be nice to give a person a rough price range.

setzep 02-16-2003 01:41 AM

From the pinion flange to the output shaft on the transmission is 42 3/16" with the rear axle compressed (jackstands under rear axle). The output shaft sticks out of the transmission 1/16". Those are the important measurements.



Just waiting on getting a price back.

setzep 02-17-2003 04:23 PM

I got the price back from them.

He said ~ $420 for a aluminum shaft and about $380 for a steel one, all new parts. Does this seem kinda high??

j9fd3s 02-17-2003 04:29 PM

yup, i dont see why you couldnt buy an aftermarket stock driveshaft and get a t2 yoke (aftermarket) and just put them together



mike

RX-Midget 02-17-2003 05:32 PM

It is a bit high. Find a local shop and you will get a better price. Ijust posed the link to let you see what is out there and to show you how to measure everything and align it.



Ask some of the old school hot rod shops and they will be able to point you in the right direction. They have been doing this kind of stuff since the Model T.

setzep 02-17-2003 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Feb 17 2003, 04:29 PM
yup, i dont see why you couldnt buy an aftermarket stock driveshaft and get a t2 yoke (aftermarket) and just put them together



mike

The T2 yoke is larger than the N/A one. Do they make u-joints that are larger on one side and smaller on the other? If so I can see how that would work.



I have a T2 yoke and also a n/a driveshaft from a gsl-se.

setzep 02-17-2003 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by RX-Midget' date='Feb 17 2003, 05:32 PM
It is a bit high. Find a local shop and you will get a better price. Ijust posed the link to let you see what is out there and to show you how to measure everything and align it.



Ask some of the old school hot rod shops and they will be able to point you in the right direction. They have been doing this kind of stuff since the Model T.

Yeah, I thought that was kinda high also so I opened up the phone book and found a local place that can make driveshafts. The guy on the phone said they can do just about anything so I asked what time they were open to, he said 6, I went down there with my T2 yoke and n/a driveshaft in hand to see a window sticker that said they close at 4:30 WTF :rant: grrr...



I'll stop by tomorrow and see what they have to say.

j9fd3s 02-17-2003 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by setzep' date='Feb 17 2003, 04:00 PM
[quote name='j9fd3s' date='Feb 17 2003, 04:29 PM'] yup, i dont see why you couldnt buy an aftermarket stock driveshaft and get a t2 yoke (aftermarket) and just put them together



mike

The T2 yoke is larger than the N/A one. Do they make u-joints that are larger on one side and smaller on the other? If so I can see how that would work.



I have a T2 yoke and also a n/a driveshaft from a gsl-se. [/quote]

i bought an aftermarket shaft it it just came with regular 3540? u joints.



mike

setzep 02-17-2003 06:23 PM

not familiar with your 3540 slang https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

dac 02-17-2003 06:26 PM

You can take the driveshaft in and have it shortened. It cost me about $100 for mine. I did a 13B engine swap in which I gave them the RX7 driveshaft for the front yoke and my Suzuki driveline for the rear, made to the length I needed. They also balanced it of course for the $100. It looks like a factory driveline.



I believe FORD used aluminum in the Aerostar. (Might be cheaper to get one from a wrecker and have ends put on it.

setzep 02-17-2003 06:38 PM

Here is a pic of the N/A vs the T2 yoke

setzep 02-17-2003 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by dac' date='Feb 17 2003, 06:26 PM
You can take the driveshaft in and have it shortened. It cost me about $100 for mine. I did a 13B engine swap in which I gave them the RX7 driveshaft for the front yoke and my Suzuki driveline for the rear, made to the length I needed. They also balanced it of course for the $100. It looks like a factory driveline.



I believe FORD used aluminum in the Aerostar. (Might be cheaper to get one from a wrecker and have ends put on it.

The Areostar has the same spline as a T2 trans??

Racer X 02-17-2003 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by setzep' date='Feb 17 2003, 04:42 PM
[quote name='dac' date='Feb 17 2003, 06:26 PM'] You can take the driveshaft in and have it shortened. It cost me about $100 for mine. I did a 13B engine swap in which I gave them the RX7 driveshaft for the front yoke and my Suzuki driveline for the rear, made to the length I needed. They also balanced it of course for the $100. It looks like a factory driveline.



I believe FORD used aluminum in the Aerostar. (Might be cheaper to get one from a wrecker and have ends put on it.

The Areostar has the same spline as a T2 trans?? [/quote]

or it uses the same yoke at the rear as the NA FB. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR

Racer X 02-17-2003 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by dac' date='Feb 17 2003, 04:26 PM
You can take the driveshaft in and have it shortened. It cost me about $100 for mine. I did a 13B engine swap in which I gave them the RX7 driveshaft for the front yoke and my Suzuki driveline for the rear, made to the length I needed. They also balanced it of course for the $100. It looks like a factory driveline.



I believe FORD used aluminum in the Aerostar. (Might be cheaper to get one from a wrecker and have ends put on it.

I'll prolly get the T2 shaft shortened and get the NA end welded on.Then later on get a set of replaceable U-joints for it then take it to a machine shop for machining to make it work.Just use the stock U's for awhile to move it with.

j9fd3s 02-18-2003 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by setzep' date='Feb 17 2003, 04:23 PM
not familiar with your 3540 slang https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR

i'm not really either the shaft i bought just used some generic american u joints



mike

setzep 02-18-2003 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Racer X' date='Feb 17 2003, 11:20 PM
[quote name='dac' date='Feb 17 2003, 04:26 PM'] You can take the driveshaft in and have it shortened. It cost me about $100 for mine. I did a 13B engine swap in which I gave them the RX7 driveshaft for the front yoke and my Suzuki driveline for the rear, made to the length I needed. They also balanced it of course for the $100. It looks like a factory driveline.



I believe FORD used aluminum in the Aerostar. (Might be cheaper to get one from a wrecker and have ends put on it.

I'll prolly get the T2 shaft shortened and get the NA end welded on.Then later on get a set of replaceable U-joints for it then take it to a machine shop for machining to make it work.Just use the stock U's for awhile to move it with. [/quote]

Isn't the T2 shaft shorter than the FB one?? If so this won't work will it? Is it possible to make a shaft longer without having to start over from the yoke?

j9fd3s 02-18-2003 07:34 PM

i dunno you would think it needs a new shaft part, but that no big deal



mike

Racer X 02-19-2003 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Feb 18 2003, 05:34 PM
i dunno you would think it needs a new shaft part, but that no big deal



mike

I mght just use the stocker shaft then that comes with the car and get a T2 yoke welded on.I'm getting a T2 driveshaft from 85TIIDevil. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub... Now I need to finish my 83 soon so I can start my newest driveline swap.I'm the only guy up here who doesn't leave the stock rotaries in thier cars. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png I love to swap.Especially a Carb to EFI one for the first time.I can't wait.https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

setzep 02-19-2003 05:21 PM

I just dropped my driveshaft/yoke of at a local place that can build/make one for me. "Dave" is suppoesed to call me tomorrow to let me know what he can do for me :bigthumg:



I'll let you guys know how it turns out.

j9fd3s 02-19-2003 05:28 PM

cool.



mike

Racer X 02-19-2003 08:21 PM

I was thinking of a custom shaft too but I thought that I can spend the money else where then worry about it later.It'll do for awhile anyways

setzep 02-20-2003 05:21 PM

Well, spent some time with Dave today and he's having one made for me. They are taking a existing new driveshaft and cutting the tube off and putting on a longer tube to fit my FB. It's going to be $272 plus tax. He was going to get all new parts individually but all of them added up plus labor would turn out to be 600+!!! So we went the other way. From what he says the only down side of going with the $272 shaft is it's going to be 2.5" instead of 3" like the $$$$ one but that shoulden't matter much I guess because It will still have replaceable u-joints.



What do you guys think?

j9fd3s 02-20-2003 05:35 PM

works for me



mike

setzep 02-20-2003 05:44 PM

haha, well if it works for you then it works for me then https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png



Now I just have to wait a week to get it and make sure it fits.



Funny thing is he said the drive shaft they are cutting apart is for some dodge car or truck. Is it common for a foregin and a domestic to share the same yoke and flange?

setzep 02-20-2003 05:58 PM

oh yeah also, do you know if the T2 pinion flange is the same as a FB flange??

setzep 02-28-2003 07:34 PM

Well the driveshaft came in today.... 3" TOO SHORT! needless to say it's on it's way back to CA to "grow up"

j9fd3s 02-28-2003 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by setzep' date='Feb 28 2003, 05:34 PM
Well the driveshaft came in today.... 3" TOO SHORT! needless to say it's on it's way back to CA to "grow up"

haha, did it bolt up to the pinion and go into the tranny like its supposed to?



mike

setzep 02-28-2003 08:22 PM

I didn't get to actually see it. He got it in and measured it, then he sent it back. I almost wish he didn't notice it was too short then I could have brought it home to inspect it and make sure the flange/pinion slip is right.

j9fd3s 02-28-2003 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by setzep' date='Feb 28 2003, 06:22 PM
I didn't get to actually see it. He got it in and measured it, then he sent it back. I almost wish he didn't notice it was too short then I could have brought it home to inspect it and make sure the flange/pinion slip is right.

yeah that would have been nice, oh well



mike

setzep 03-05-2003 05:52 PM

I got it today https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif turned out better than I thought it would have. The u-joints seem to be the same size as T2 units but they are replaceable and greaseable so I really liked that.

For those that are going to have one made it's 39 7/8" from the pinion flange to the center of the front U-joint or 42 3/16" from the pinion flange to the transmission seal. I guess different shops measure different ways, found that out https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif Total came to $302 with shipping/tax.

Racer X 03-06-2003 01:04 AM


Originally Posted by setzep' date='Mar 5 2003, 03:52 PM
I got it today https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif turned out better than I thought it would have. The u-joints seem to be the same size as T2 units but they are replaceable and greaseable so I really liked that.

For those that are going to have one made it's 39 7/8" from the pinion flange to the center of the front U-joint or 42 3/16" from the pinion flange to the transmission seal. I guess different shops measure different ways, found that out https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif Total came to $302 with shipping/tax.

Cool,So when do you get to take it for a drive? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png


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