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Old 07-28-2002, 11:27 AM
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by the time i 'm starting the 12a to 13bt swap on my 1st gen.i hope that the 13b would fit to my 1st gen tranny.but i don't know which clutch and pressure plate should i use(12a or 13bt?).shall i use 2nd gen clutch with 1st gen gearbox?

i also want to fit a L.S.D diff from 84-85.i know gsl-se got different axles(and wheel bolt circle also) from my 81 so i have to swap the whole rear-end.can i swap the axles, the diff.,of course the brakes but keep my old housing?
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Originally Posted by spartiatis' date='Jul 28 2002, 12:27 PM
by the time i 'm starting the 12a to 13bt swap on my 1st gen.i hope that the 13b would fit to my 1st gen tranny.but i don't know which clutch and pressure plate should i use(12a or 13bt?).shall i use 2nd gen clutch with 1st gen gearbox?

i also want to fit a L.S.D diff from 84-85.i know gsl-se got different axles(and wheel bolt circle also) from my 81 so i have to swap the whole rear-end.can i swap the axles, the diff.,of course the brakes but keep my old housing?
Best bet if your gonan do a 13bt swap is finding a Turbo II trans..

Its suppose to be good for 400 hp or 400 lbs of torque..either way its the best..



You cannot use GSLSE rearend..and put pre 84 axels..they are smaller..



If you want a LSD with 4x110 lug pattern/BUT it has a 3.90 gear..I can get them for you..



Pinion gear sets are expensive..BUT you can change them..

OR if you want a GSLSE Ft end..I know wheres theres one..its rough BUT its all there...



go here to read......

http://www.mazdatrix.com/g5.htm
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Old 07-30-2002, 02:50 AM
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thanks SoRRoW RPMWARZ.please does your 84gs run a 12a or 13b?what is your performance figures?
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As of now..I have a 12A in it ...With help from others here I can used the FT cover of a 12A to a 13B ..and I can get a 13B with tranny for $250.

BUT im not in no rush to swap or port anything now..Im gonan drive my car untill Nov?Then park it ..then redo it all..maybe by spring time..So we can take an Import run to Daytona Beach...



Im thinking of getting the 13B done...and just going that route...
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before starting with the engine swap i want to know if it's better to look for a transmission too.is it possible for 2nd gen trans to fit on my 1st gen in order to handle the 13bt extra torque?
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Yes you can fit a second gen tranny in a first gen..



I can get some LSD but from a 82/83 GSL meaning the lug pattern will be 4x110...GSLSE is 4x4.5 ..



Tell me if you want the LSD from the 82-83..where do u live?
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i live in Greece but i 've got a friend who lives at Conecticut.you can make the deal with him.what's the price?



B.T.W.what should be the estimated horsepower for a stock-ported 12a with 48ida carb,RB header,straight exhaust,performance muffler and msd ignition?
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Originally Posted by spartiatis' date='Aug 1 2002, 02:55 AM
i live in Greece but i 've got a friend who lives at Conecticut.you can make the deal with him.what's the price?



B.T.W.what should be the estimated horsepower for a stock-ported 12a with 48ida carb,RB header,straight exhaust,performance muffler and msd ignition?
What do y ou want? The 4x110 gsl pattern or gslse rear end?I will have to get a sheet on ups shipping...



Dam you live in greece..how do you expect to get this?



Im not sure on your HP rating..why not port your engine..
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i only want the 82 L.S.D box,not whole the rear-end.tell me how much do you want?i will tell my friend who lives at conecticut to contact and make the deal with you.then he is gonna send it to me.
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Ok..thats not a problem...



Bad thing is ..its got to be sent to him then you...alot of shipping involved..



You also Know its geared at 3.90 right?

Also is there any little, other items you would like?



I have been working 10-12 hrs day..and doing landscaping its a very long day..



I will check on this for you this weekend..it will be first priority..

Unless I drive 30 miles to go get this GSLSE suspension.... :bigok:



I will let you know..

I get rims/tires/exhast around wholesale cost..



The mufflers are Magnaflow
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