OK guys, I have a decision I need to make on where I would like my career here working for OC welfare to go. I don't mind posting what I make, since it isn't much. Raises might be somewhat meager compared to a lot of what's out there, but I do have a bit more security than most jobs.



Here's the prob: I currently make $16.49/hr ($2858.71/mo). At the end of Jan, it will be raised to $17.93/hr ($3108.35/mo) IF I stay at my present title. This jobs caps out at $19.42/hr ($3281.71/mo). I will reach this mark 1 "raise" after this upcoming one (basically in Jan 2005). Bascially each raise would be ~$1.50/hr, once per year. I have no one below me. I am basically a grunt worker.



Job opportunity #1: Office Supervisor C (out of A, B, C, & D). If I get this, I would get a 5% increase from my current pay ($16.49/hr) and be placed in the closest payscale slot. This job caps out at $21.30/hr ($3692.57/mo), which I would reach in 3-4 years from the time I begin. Each raise would be ~$1.00 - $1.20 depending on the supervisor I'd be under.



Job oportunity #2: CalWORKS worker. This is basically a higher, more complicated version of what I am now. This job caps @ $21.77/hr ($3774.05/mo). I would get the disctrict standard 5% promotion raise same as Job Opp. #1. Raises would be anywhere from $1 - $1.65/hr, depending on the supervisor I would be assigned under. This would also take 3-4 years from the month I begin.



Dilemna: The Office Supervisor position looks great on the resume. I would be in charge of 7-10 office techs, have an office rather than cubicle, etc. I would be a lower member of the "elite" in this building. There are ~200+ employees here, and only ~ 20 - 30 first-line supervisors (I won't go into 2nd or 3rd line). supervisor). The problem with Job Opp #1 is that it pays a hair less than, and raises are harder than that of Job Opp #2. By the end of 3-4 years, I would make $.40 less per hr in Job Opp #1 than Job Opp #2, disregarding the yearly 3-7% cost of living adj's (which I get now as well). To further compound the prob, my current supervisor is REALLY nice. I'm pretty much guaranteed $1.50/hr/yr raise (higher than the 5% promotion raise). This just doesn't have much room for improvement.



What should I do?

I know this is all very confusing, so post any Q's there may be.



Thnx for reading https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

honestly i would go for the supervisor position regardless if you plan to stay in the welfare department and make a nice career out of it or if you are gonna be looking for another job in the later years. but you also have to look at how much responsabilty you are willing to take on. do u wanna have work on your mind when you go home? (like i do) **** like that will make a big difference.

I'd go for the supervisor. That way, you can be the guy giving everyone buck fifty raise and they'll think you're awesome. Furthermore, I'd think most people would like to climb up to the very top of a company... that's if it happens... going to this supervisor position is definately a step up than being a grunt worker.



All in all, comparing job security, I'd think all three options would be about the same. If they have to cut back, they'd fire the supervisor first though... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Ryan,

The main prob between these two isn't really about the stress involved. Both should be somewhat higher than what I deal with right now, but i don't think it's anything i can't get used to.

The decision I need to make is whether to go for the position that gives a better title (office supervisor) or slightly better pay (CalWORKS worker).



To be honest, neither makes much $$ :(

I plan on going back to school within 5 yrs, but I haven't decided on what subject to pursue. Most likely the worker position would look better on College apps, but the supervisor position would look better on resumes.

well if thats the case of you going back to school within 5 years. take the job with less work involved. you do not wanna overwork yourself and go to scholl at the same time. with a higher job title comes a lot more stress. hell i should now.



either one you pick though will be a better move for you in the long run. btw are they both salary or hourly? that would make a huge difference on my out look of the situation

They are both hourly.

I'm *planning* on going back to school, but I haven't realy thought much about it beyond that. I don't know where I want to go, how i'm going to afford it, how to schedule work around it, etc. I haven't even started preparing for the GRE yet. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

well i would take the higher paying job then. less stress w/ more money. you can always put on your resume that you were a office supervisor https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

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Even if I don't take the job?

yup. companies hiring barely call and ask what your position was, they just wanna verify employment and salary thats about it.

OK, I just applied to job #2, will be talking to the supervisor in charge of hiring for job #1, & sent in my resume for a new job #3.



#3 is to be a Human Resources consultant for OC; starts @ $22.23/hr and up DOE. I prob won't get it, but might as well try. Hopefully I get this, get some decent experience going, & then get my ass hired @ Mazda, Nissan, or Toyota's HR dept https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

hey can ya look up my info and familys info agian or provide that healthcare website u recommended for my youngest daughter

Goddamn, I told you to take care of that months ago.....





http://www.healthyfamilies.ca.gov/

i will take care of it tomorrow. thank you so much! oh and if u get hired at a HR department of one of those companies, u gotta hire me man.

I make $30 bucks an hour.

Yes, thank you.

i make half that!

Jerry (sorry, didn't notice this thread until now).



I would take the supervisor position.



Reasons why:



1) You are a supervisor. Having a title, is better than no title.

2) Comparing the two salaries,...PERSONALLY, there isn't that much difference per month.



Job #1

$21.30/hour x 40 hours x 4 weeks = $3,408.00/month. Yearly = $40,896.00



Job#2

$21.77/hour x 40 hours x 4 weeks = $3,483.20/month. Yearly = $41,798.40



Job #2 will pay $902.40 MORE than Job #1. This may sound like a lot of money, but (see number 3)...



3) You are planning to go back to school. So ultimately, the small increase in income per month,...isn't really an issue. If your income were to increase by a good couple thousand, then I would not hesitate. But, for less than a grand, it really isn't that much (at least not in my opinion).

4) With the few extra dollars from Job #2,...will you still be as motivated to go back to school, or will you become slightly unmotivated because of the it? Technically speaking,...the lesser paying job will keep you focused on your goal.

i would work for DOM!!!!!! so any news jerry?

Thanks for the perspective DOM https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



Yeah, I'm about 50/50 over what to do. On one hand, I can try to emphasize HR/managerial/supervisory experience..... on the other hand, I went to school to pursue psychology/counseling/therapy.



My attention span is horrible.... i was just re-reading my 1st post, and i got bored & stopped (to figure out which was assigned #1 & #2). School might not be the best thing for me until I leap that hurdle....



So far, I have 2 interviews for #1 lined up at diff. branches. I just applied on Monday for #2, and it prob won't proceed to the next step for another good month or so.



**If this "ressurgence" of spending by the county continues, I might get another shot at the Social Worker I position, which pays ~$20 - 27/hr. I didn't get it last time because the county realized they had no $$ 1/2 way through the hiring phase :(



Thnx for the responses (except series7's https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR)

If you are serious about going back to school for psychology, then I can have you talk to my father-in-law. He is one of the top neuropsychologists in the country.

what i find funny is that you didnt post this on the other forum to get it hijacked

Keep in mind the job with slightly higher wages may bump you into a higher tax bracket, causing you to have less take home pay. I found this happened at a couple places if I worked a few hours overtime.



I vote for supervisor position.

Dom: Thnx for the offer; I might take you up on that later https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png Right now Psychology, Family/Marriage counseling, & Education all look appealing. I've been procrastinating on apps & research though, mainly because I'm not too tempted to jump back into doing essays, tests, reading endless chapters of endless books, worrying about grades, etc.

I hope to figure out a plan within 1 more yr (just to see where working for the county can take me)



Turbo: Of course this thread would never work on the other forum. There's too much crap, and most posts are meaning less too https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

At least here, you & Frank can *edit* posts if necessary https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

oh i gotta do that family website ya gave me. thanks for reminding me.

Funny you should mention taxes.... I worked 13.5 hrs of O/T the other weekend, totalling a hair over $300. After taxes, I was left with $200. Ridiculous!



I fall here:

$26,250 - $63,550



income tax level

base: $3,637.50

rate = 27%

rate x gross over $26,250



*student exemptions would be nice right about now....

hey rooter, i cant dl the form. it gives me an error. can ya dl it for me or do u have any of the applications in your office?