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Maxt 09-30-2010 09:25 PM

I couldnt find any feedback on FC big brake kits, so I went ahead and bought one. I was a bit scared of the ksport stuff, being of unknown quality and origin, so I opted to stay USA and bought a Wilwood custom BBK from Revolution Brakes. So far the stuff looks pretty impressive, I will install it over the weeked, to check fit and finish. I won't be able to report on the track performance till next year.

GreyGT-C 09-30-2010 10:00 PM

it's Wilwood, so i doubt you have very many complaints about it..bias will probably be your biggest issue with them.

fc3sboy1 10-01-2010 08:27 AM

bias is a big issue with the stock FC brakes anyways. we have tried some pretty crazy stuff to solve it. and have settled with Hawk DTC60 front pads Hawk black rear pads with a wilwood bias adjuster on stock calipers and rotors in the race car.

Maxt 10-01-2010 10:46 PM

I did get the adjustable proportioning as well, but also they are engineering me a set of 13"x1.25 2 piece rotors with park brake caliper for the rear to equalize it out..Once I got good rubber I could stand on the pedal with both feet and just boil the **** out of the stock brakes with Hawk HP's after 2 laps at our local track that has a pretty good front straight, I was hitting 260 km/hr, then braking for dear life at turn 1, by turn 4, the pedal was on the floor.

fc3sboy1 10-03-2010 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Maxt (Post 843563)
I did get the adjustable proportioning as well, but also they are engineering me a set of 13"x1.25 2 piece rotors with park brake caliper for the rear to equalize it out..Once I got good rubber I could stand on the pedal with both feet and just boil the **** out of the stock brakes with Hawk HP's after 2 laps at our local track that has a pretty good front straight, I was hitting 260 km/hr, then braking for dear life at turn 1, by turn 4, the pedal was on the floor.

you need some motul brake fluid in the car damn and put some brake ducks in on the front brakes

Lynn E. Hanover 10-03-2010 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by fc3sboy1 (Post 843551)
bias is a big issue with the stock FC brakes anyways. we have tried some pretty crazy stuff to solve it. and have settled with Hawk DTC60 front pads Hawk black rear pads with a wilwood bias adjuster on stock calipers and rotors in the race car.





Use Carbon Metallic front pads. You won't notice the rears after that.



We used to install a Corvette rear brake adjuster cylinder with a crank on the adjuster screw so the driver could change it under way. Cheap, easy.



Lynn E. Hanover

GreyGT-C 10-03-2010 06:00 PM

hey Lynn, what year Vette are you getting the brake adjuster from?

Maxt 10-03-2010 08:12 PM

I tried every "trick fluid" in the car, it never really made that much of a difference. The best brakepad I have found for the cars OEM brakes are the Napa ultra premium, even over race pads.. They dust like crazy and bite hot, far better than lots of race pads I tried(hawk and longacres). Bottom line is the mazda brakes are meant for about a 200hp car and to fit under a 15" wheel, shod with 205's engineered to the OEM competition of 25 years ago.They actually work pretty well on my pport n/a FC, it weighs 2600 ish lbs, and makes 230 rwhp, it also enters turn one 60 km/h slower than my turbo car, weighs 600 lbs less and has 1/2 the rwhp.

I've got to say, the Porsche cars I run with on the track have great brakes, its hard to find something in the P brand that is sporting anything less than 330mm brakes.. Those guys just go lap after lap, no fade, outbraking me by a hundred feet. They are a really well balanced and engineered car, and the racing heritage shows in their OEM parts.

fc3sboy1 10-03-2010 08:28 PM

my race car was the first second gen to recive the Hawk dtc 30s and 60s for the front calipers , thanks to a little run in with the hawk rep a few years ago at the pri show. we did some testing with them and sent ower traqmate data to hawk for them sending use the first copies. we have never had a problem with fluid boil with the motul fluid or the wilwood 570. we dont run cross drilled or slotted rotors due to rules in ower class and the bias control is now set to center with that combo , dtc 60 front hawk black back. car is very consistant even with centecs standard oem replacment rotors. check out my build link with the new ep car. you may like it.

Maxt 10-05-2010 11:19 PM

BBK installed, to late at night to go and bed the pads into the rotors.. Had to do some mods to the kit to make it fit the car right, not major stuff, just took some time and 35 bucks worth of little parts..

Lots of rim clearance on 17" enkeis with this kit though. I went with the street/track polymatrix pad to start with. I have to make some new backing plates for it with air ducts, but that will have to wait till spring sometime.

Maxt 10-07-2010 06:42 PM

Bedded in the pads and rotors... Its insane what kind of braking it has now, there is absolutely no comparison between the stock system and this kit..I think I have a bruise from my seatbelt..No matter what pad I had or fluid , the stock brakes never felt like this.. Rock hard firm and pedal effort is way down.

The next thing I am going to do is the 4 pot rear with parking brake on 13x1.25" rear. Total kit cost for the whole car will be in the 3600.00 range, but its worth every cent.

fc3sboy1 10-07-2010 08:35 PM

i would not go with the large rear brakes, with the larger fronts you have corrected the bias problem that the FC3 has. besides that i didnt hear about a master cylender upgrade or am i wrong on that. either way if you go to the large rear brakes i a fearing the bad bias will come back only with a firm pedal now.

Maxt 10-07-2010 09:50 PM

It needs larger rears it to easily locks the fronts after driving it around tonight, the front is doing all the work, even though it actually has larger than stock rear brakes currently, I could dial it down a little more with the prop valve, but I may as well just take it all the way and have kick ass brakes for next year. I machined a set of 12" rotors to fit the rear last year, but they could stand to be thicker. The master cylinder so far is a pretty good match as far as pedal effort and travel is concerned.

This kit is a bargain for how well it performs...

thatpoorguy 10-07-2010 11:57 PM

very nice! when you get the new rear brakes on do you have an idea what kind of a balance you'll be running?

GreyGT-C 10-08-2010 12:17 AM

if you are locking the fronts up already... get some wider front tires and let the brakes do their job.

Maxt 10-08-2010 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by GreyGT-C (Post 843620)
if you are locking the fronts up already... get some wider front tires and let the brakes do their job.

17x8's on the front and already rubbing the fenders with 245/45/17's. The car is really nose standing now, after a few hard stops, the fronts were hot, the rear had no temperature at all,

to front biased right now.


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