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1Revvin7 08-28-2003 07:47 PM

I want to purchase a aquamist kit this winter, therefore I don't have to do the FMIC till later on. I've heard wonderful things about it, and we all know how much harder are cars pull on a cool day, just think of that all the tim https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png I plan on having the WI coming on at 8psi.... And I will ofcourse still use my IC, I think thats just a bad idea... I never see ppl running w/o an IC unless they are using a meth mix..

toddp31 08-28-2003 08:10 PM

"But aren't we still trying to aim for 14.7 stoich? (or slightly richer)"





14.7 is way too rich.....high 10's and 11's are the best for performance. I was told 10.8 is the best in rotary

Rotarydragon 08-28-2003 08:25 PM

I have heard that water can shatter the apex seals if you're not carefull with the set up. It's like the ATF treatment going wrong and breaking things, not common.



The other issue is build up of minerals in the water, I've seen this happen on a ford truck that was outfittied with injection. Use distilled water.



Water injection should NEVER be used in place of good tuning. It'll only delay the end https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

tcb100 08-28-2003 08:34 PM

Zerobanger, I can't tell from looking at the picture. Where did you stash the tank and pump?

ZeroBanger 08-28-2003 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by tcb100' date='Aug 28 2003, 05:34 PM
Zerobanger, I can't tell from looking at the picture. Where did you stash the tank and pump?

spare tire well.

jspecracer7 08-28-2003 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by toddp31' date='Aug 29 2003, 10:10 AM
"But aren't we still trying to aim for 14.7 stoich? (or slightly richer)"





14.7 is way too rich.....high 10's and 11's are the best for performance. I was told 10.8 is the best in rotary

14.7 is stoic...closer to lean than rich. I idle at appx 13.7 a/f and anything below boost...I'm at 13.7 to 12.7 a/f. When I get into boost, anything above .6 boost, I'm already at 11.2 and go to 11.0 above that. When I go even higher boost I may just go 10.9 to be on the safe side(1.3 kilos)

epion2985 08-29-2003 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by jspecracer7' date='Aug 28 2003, 07:52 PM
[quote name='toddp31' date='Aug 29 2003, 10:10 AM'] "But aren't we still trying to aim for 14.7 stoich? (or slightly richer)"





14.7 is way too rich.....high 10's and 11's are the best for performance. I was told 10.8 is the best in rotary

14.7 is stoic...closer to lean than rich. I idle at appx 13.7 a/f and anything below boost...I'm at 13.7 to 12.7 a/f. When I get into boost, anything above .6 boost, I'm already at 11.2 and go to 11.0 above that. When I go even higher boost I may just go 10.9 to be on the safe side(1.3 kilos) [/quote]

*feels stupid* https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png



what are you guys talking about?

Leetheslacker 08-29-2003 02:17 PM

air/fuel ratios.

jspecracer7 08-29-2003 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by epion2985' date='Aug 30 2003, 01:34 AM
[quote name='jspecracer7' date='Aug 28 2003, 07:52 PM'] [quote name='toddp31' date='Aug 29 2003, 10:10 AM'] "But aren't we still trying to aim for 14.7 stoich? (or slightly richer)"





14.7 is way too rich.....high 10's and 11's are the best for performance. I was told 10.8 is the best in rotary

14.7 is stoic...closer to lean than rich. I idle at appx 13.7 a/f and anything below boost...I'm at 13.7 to 12.7 a/f. When I get into boost, anything above .6 boost, I'm already at 11.2 and go to 11.0 above that. When I go even higher boost I may just go 10.9 to be on the safe side(1.3 kilos) [/quote]

*feels stupid* https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png



what are you guys talking about? [/quote]

14.7 a/f ratio is stoic(stociometry if memory serves me)...basically in chemistry a one for one burn(it's been about 10 years so forgive me on this one guys)so that when gasoline mixes with air and combustes, you'll get CO2 and H20 at the end of the tail pipe. Problem with running stoic is that you'll run very hot egt. The higher the number, the leaner the mixture. The lower the number, the richer the mixture. So rotary's under boost tend to like to have an 11.2 a/f...richer than stoic

epion2985 08-29-2003 07:58 PM

11 air to 2 octaine right


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