Has anyone changed there oil coolers lines to braided with An fittings, and maybe the single oil feed line. I was looking for sizes of AN fittings and maybe length of the braided lines. I think they should flow a little better, or I could just buy a kit that comes with everything. Do you know where I could get some?
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It would save you a lot of money if you had a nearby hydralics shop, that could just reuse your stock fittings and add SS hose to them...
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Around here I don't know any hydro shops, plus they probally don't speak english. Just have to meet the right people and get the hook ups!
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I know the front cover and filter base banjo bolt size is 18mmx1.5. You'll need a TIGHT radius 90 degree to go from the front cover adapter and clear the A/C stuff. A 60 or 90mm for the oil filter base. Again you'd need a metric adapter 18mmx1.5 to 10 AN (two of them). The oil cooler lines themselves terminate in a 22mmx1.5 fitting so use the 22mmx1.5 to 10AN adapter. I can't remember off hand if it's male or female. I haven't installed my stuff yet and just purchased both ($8) each. www.batinc.net has everything although I don't think that'll help you in Japan! I'd estimate you'll need about 10 ft. of 10AN braided hose which should give you a bit of wiggle room if you screw something up :-)
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thanks alot
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In case you decide to skip the hydraulics shop,
Racing Beat makes a "kit". Already has the adapters and is cut to proper length. Pricey though $225, IIRC. Works great. Messy install. {ed} Corksport.com make one too, I believe. {/ed} Steve C. |
Where I couldn't find?
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Originally Posted by qwck10th' date='Jul 23 2003, 06:32 AM
In case you decide to skip the hydraulics shop,
Racing Beat makes a "kit". Already has the adapters and is cut to proper length. Pricey though $225, IIRC. Works great. Messy install. |
Originally Posted by rx7tt95' date='Jul 15 2003, 04:08 AM
I know the front cover and filter base banjo bolt size is 18mmx1.5. You'll need a TIGHT radius 90 degree to go from the front cover adapter and clear the A/C stuff. A 60 or 90mm for the oil filter base. Again you'd need a metric adapter 18mmx1.5 to 10 AN (two of them). The oil cooler lines themselves terminate in a 22mmx1.5 fitting so use the 22mmx1.5 to 10AN adapter. I can't remember off hand if it's male or female. I haven't installed my stuff yet and just purchased both ($8) each. www.batinc.net has everything although I don't think that'll help you in Japan! I'd estimate you'll need about 10 ft. of 10AN braided hose which should give you a bit of wiggle room if you screw something up :-)
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Originally Posted by toddp31' date='Jul 14 2003, 11:16 AM
Has anyone changed there oil coolers lines to braided with An fittings, and maybe the single oil feed line. I was looking for sizes of AN fittings and maybe length of the braided lines. I think they should flow a little better, or I could just buy a kit that comes with everything. Do you know where I could get some?
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I'll order some fittings this week and some braided lines and try to make it work. Thanks guys
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I do believe that if you add an oil cooler on to the stock unit you'll have to add a thermostat as well as the thermostat for the stock oil cooler is IN the cooler itself. So, it comes out the front cover, into the first oil cooler where, if the oil is cold, gets bypassed by the thermostat sending COLD oil to the second cooler. You want to avoid that as it can burst the oil cooler when the oil is cold and it'll take longer for the car to warm up. I just ordered a Mocal 235 series 25 row...perfect size and much larger than stock. I originally ordered a 115 series 34 row. It'll fit (34 row) but it's tall and very thin in width. The 235 series 25 row row is actually larger than the 115series 34 row. Go to www.batinc.net to see the coolers and measurements. Setrab makes great coolers as well.
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ah man michel i wish you would have told me that you ordered it...becasue harrison and i were going to order some and the guys there were going to give us a nice disount! since we were going to buy a couple of them...oh well
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Originally Posted by rx7tt95' date='Jul 29 2003, 04:33 PM
I do believe that if you add an oil cooler on to the stock unit you'll have to add a thermostat as well as the thermostat for the stock oil cooler is IN the cooler itself. So, it comes out the front cover, into the first oil cooler where, if the oil is cold, gets bypassed by the thermostat sending COLD oil to the second cooler. You want to avoid that as it can burst the oil cooler when the oil is cold and it'll take longer for the car to warm up. I just ordered a Mocal 235 series 25 row...perfect size and much larger than stock. I originally ordered a 115 series 34 row. It'll fit (34 row) but it's tall and very thin in width. The 235 series 25 row row is actually larger than the 115series 34 row. Go to www.batinc.net to see the coolers and measurements. Setrab makes great coolers as well.
Michel |
http://www.elephantracing.com/oilhan...boilcooler.htm
PART NUMBER: 1-STD625 $157.00 m22 to -10 adpt X2 pn: m22an10 $6 X2 That's the 25 row oil cooler with fittings. Larger than the stock FD oil cooler. From summitracing.com you'll need to order these parts: 10ft -10 hose pn: aer-fca1010 $61.95 18mm to -10 adpt X2 pn: ear9919ffk $12.99 X2 90 hose end -10 X4 pn: ear309110 $18.50 X4 I mis calculated. The total cost is $330.93 not including shipping. |
do you need 2 of those hoses?
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Originally Posted by twinturborx7pete' date='Jul 31 2003, 10:16 PM
do you need 2 of those hoses?
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i meant, one for return and send? or do u just cut that hose?
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Originally Posted by twinturborx7pete' date='Aug 1 2003, 10:53 AM
i meant, one for return and send? or do u just cut that hose?
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stock oil coolers are 20x1.5
not 22 |
Originally Posted by 93BlackFD' date='Aug 4 2003, 05:55 AM
stock oil coolers are 20x1.5
not 22 |
Hrm...I was told that the oil coolers (stock) are 22...perhaps it's the fittings in the line? I dunno...I have both male/female in 22. Had planned to install the additional cooler this weekend but ran out of time. FD, you positive on this? Are you referring to the fittings going into the cooler (stock) itself or the fittings in the lines just before the stock oil cooler?
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The part number I am referring to is NOT to be used for stock oil coolers. I am giving a part number for a 25 row aftermarket oil cooler, NOT the stock oil coolers.
The write up is for those people who wanted to know how much a single oil cooler upgrade would cost. I gave them the part numbers for that, NOT the stock oil coolers. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif |
Mocal comes in various sizes. You can get them in 8AN through 14AN I believe. Where exactly would the M22x1.5 go?
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Originally Posted by rx7tt95' date='Aug 4 2003, 12:20 PM
Mocal comes in various sizes. You can get them in 8AN through 14AN I believe. Where exactly would the M22x1.5 go?
I got a ton of pm's asking me to hook them up on aftermarket oil coolers for $200. I did my math wrong and it was actually $300~ to get a 25 row strab oil cooler with a/n fittings and -10 hose. The 22 is for the AFTERMARKET oil coolers, not the stockers https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png |
I understand that, but I'm asking WHERE you're going to use a 22mm fitting on the aftermarket oil cooler if the actual fittings on the cooler are 10AN and the braided lines are 10AN? Sorry to be a PITA, I'm just not understanding where you're using the fittings on the aftermarket cooler. FD's saying that the fittings on the stock cooler are 20mm not 22 (which I was told) and there are additional fittings on the stock oil cooler lines. If you "branch" off one of the oil cooler lines that run to the stock oil cooler, you'd need an adapter which I'm "hoping" is 22mmx1.5. Is that what you're referring to????
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Originally Posted by rx7tt95' date='Aug 4 2003, 01:22 PM
I understand that, but I'm asking WHERE you're going to use a 22mm fitting on the aftermarket oil cooler if the actual fittings on the cooler are 10AN and the braided lines are 10AN? Sorry to be a PITA, I'm just not understanding where you're using the fittings on the aftermarket cooler. FD's saying that the fittings on the stock cooler are 20mm not 22 (which I was told) and there are additional fittings on the stock oil cooler lines. If you "branch" off one of the oil cooler lines that run to the stock oil cooler, you'd need an adapter which I'm "hoping" is 22mmx1.5. Is that what you're referring to????
on the oil cooler itself. It's threaded on the bottom(or top...whichever way you want to mount it) You add the M22 -10 adapter to it and make your oil cooler lines to the engine. sorry for the mix up https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif |
Wait a second...I think I know where the mix up is.
The part numbers I gave out are to completely replace the oil coolers, not add an oil cooler to the existing one. Is this what your trying to do? |
Update!
Igy found the oil coolers on summitracing's website. They're cheaper and come with the fittings. Problem is that the 25 row oil coolers are on back order. Here's the info: EAR-42510 Oil Cooler, Temp-A-Cure, 25 Row 7 3/4`` High, -10 AN Male Fitting, Wide $162.39 B/O |
That sounds like the Crooked Willow setup, assuming you replace the 1st one as well (less carbon ducts). Has anyone ever settled the which is better: One large or two small oil coolers?
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Originally Posted by GoRacer' date='Aug 5 2003, 01:29 PM
That sounds like the Crooked Willow setup, assuming you replace the 1st one as well (less carbon ducts). Has anyone ever settled the which is better: One large or two small oil coolers?
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Ah gotcha...I think we were both confused :-) Your oil cooler that you are using have a 22mm fitting on it already, right? The Earl's units are Setrab coolers. Good stuff. My 25 row Mocal has 10AN fittings. Seems EVERYONE is out of 10AN including Mocal dealers. I know that www.batinc.net just got a bunch in as did racerpartswholesale.com in the the 25 row size. I'm simply keeping the stock driver's side oil cooler and adding a 25 row to the passenger's side for now. My single is oil fed only and I live in an extremely hot climate so this should do my oil a world of good! Oh, if they don't have the 10AN oil coolers in stock, go with the 12AN and use a 12AN to 10AN adapter if you're in a hurry to get one. I believe they get shipments once a month from Britain where Mocal stuff is made.
My thoughts on 1 large vs. 2 smaller, one 235 series Mocal 34 row would fit with a bit of effort, would be lighter, have fewer lines, fewer AN fittings, fewer connections (naturally) and fewer places to leak! You would have to fab a duct and it would be best if you had an aftermarket front fascia instead of the stock nose pieces. With a 25 row, it'll fit nicely with a FEED, GTC or C-West front and you won't need a duct if positioned correctly. |
This sounds like a good idea. I've looked at the CWR kit and drooled over the Greddy kit but I can just add a 2nd (larger) cooler without replacing the 1st one and not have to worry about the temperature dealybob thing mentioned that is built in to the 1st cooler and save big bucks.
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i have 20x1.5 and they do not fit the stock oil coolers, i ordered 22x1.5 instead, hopefully it will worko
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:-) Thanks for posting the mistake. You had me worried there for a while. Almost ordered the 20mm's just in case!
Michel |
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