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DuMaurier 7 12-22-2003 06:10 PM

I already have my suspicions , but I want to know what you guys think . here's what happens , when I rev. the motor past about 6000 rpm when the car is at a standstill or moving and let off the gas , then go back on I get a fairly large amount of blue smoke from my exhaust and over time I actually loose oil from my sump. I suspected the turbo and had it checked and rebuilt (there was a "massive imbalance" on it which was causing the turbine side oil seal to wear out , so it was rebuilt) , after this the problems' still there , my oil feed oririce size is 3/32" , if it were too big I suppose it would cause a constant smoke problem .

The motor pulls strong past 9000rpm , idles well and starts quite easily if hot or cold , my plugs come out with a brown/grey deposit on them indicating "good" combustion , I am now thinking oil "cage " rings and / or the oil seal O rings but my builder assures me that those things never cause problems and this guy is the "tini Ito" and I know he knows what he's talking about. I don't want to pull my engine unless I have to ( you know how much fun that is ) . https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif

Sharky 12-22-2003 08:32 PM

sounds like a oil seal in the turbo. i have only just bought a brand new T-66 just cause the old on did this.



get it checked dude.





Ernie

Sharky 12-23-2003 12:06 AM

i have to add this...... be very carefully as very soon if its not looked at you will develop blowback.



trust me i have only just gone thru this and i dont want to see someone else suffer.

little rotor 12-23-2003 06:32 AM

The symptoms sound exactly like what you get with worn oil control rings/seals. I have only seen one engine that was excessivly bad. It did exactly the same thing. When I pulled it apart the the oil rings/seals were completely stuffed. However, it was an old 12A which had been sitting around for a few years and the rubber o-rings were hard and brittle.



Could possibly be the turbo. Maybe the oil pressure is just getting high enough at high revs to make it blow past. Don't know about all this 3/32" **** (stupid imperial system), but my turbo seems fine with a 2mm restrictor (although most people seem to use around 1.5mm). It's a long shot. Like you said, I'd expect that if it was too big the turbo would leak all the time.

DuMaurier 7 12-23-2003 06:19 PM

yeah I'm thinking the same thing lil rotor , I think I'll drag the motor out and change those seals , I got some other little things to deal with so it won't feel like I am going in unnecessarily.

94touring 12-23-2003 06:50 PM

Just sounds like blow by to me. Typical if you let off the gas and then get back on it.

DuMaurier 7 12-23-2003 06:54 PM

Nope , not the amount I'm getting .. I'ts friggin embarrasing !!!, and before all this **** started there wasn't any visible vapours / fumes coming out.

94touring 12-23-2003 06:59 PM

Do you have the crankcase blocked by any chance?

DuMaurier 7 12-23-2003 07:23 PM

Nope , I have three vents , two original one and another through the cap. when I remove the cap and do a free rev . there is absolutely no blow by and I build about 5 psi boost when I do that.

I also suspect the O rings because they aren't original Mazda , A guy was selling a Felpro kit (so he clamed) , the price was good so I bought it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif , now I know why the pricewas good.

boost_creep 12-30-2003 01:23 AM

My, My those felpro kits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You F***** up big time. Mazda OEM stuff next time. I dont even mess with em new viton stuff thar.


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