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fc3sboy1 05-19-2005 12:10 PM

my area rep is here today and i was instructed to report any and all modifications and the owners of all rx-8s. wether it was a cold air or exhaust all the way to full on turbo kits and piggy backs. seams mazda wants to know and contact the owners of these cars, i assum to void any warrenty but ,,,,,,,,,,,, i say **** it what mazda dont know ,,,,,,,,,,,, ill keep that one to myself.

just thought yall would like to know.

Black8 05-19-2005 12:14 PM

Meh....I'm stock to the bone......being poor is great...can't afford to modify till it's paid off and out of warranty anyway...hahah

phinsup 05-19-2005 12:16 PM

that is odd on a catback or a cold air intake, but I can definetely see it on a turbo.

j9fd3s 05-19-2005 07:53 PM

hmm our rep hasnt mentioned anything like that, although we have bigger fish to fry. on the flip side, theres only 1 rx8 we've worked on that wasnt stock anyways. its got a flywheel and mufflers.

fc3sboy1 05-19-2005 09:50 PM

the other day i did some work , nothing warrenty mind you on an 8 with co2 injection, cold air intake, cat back, pullies and cb hood and wing. then there is the 8 that the suspention is all done i did a custom alignment on today while the rep was there,,,,, didnt make her happy,,,,, and then there is the 8 that i had freeze fram data from it at 125 mph hahahahahaha the funny thing with that car is he said he was doin 137 in fith then slowed to 125 and put it in 6th and tripped the light,,,,, car needed a omp.

but ya look for it to come your way,,,,, when was the last time your rep was at your shop,,,,, the warrenty rep that is?

j9fd3s 05-21-2005 11:41 AM

[quote name='fc3sboy1' date='May 19 2005, 06:50 PM']the other day i did some work , nothing warrenty mind you on an 8 with co2 injection, cold air intake, cat back, pullies and cb hood and wing. then there is the 8 that the suspention is all done i did a custom alignment on today while the rep was there,,,,, didnt make her happy,,,,, and then there is the 8 that i had freeze fram data from it at 125 mph hahahahahaha the funny thing with that car is he said he was doin 137 in fith then slowed to 125 and put it in 6th and tripped the light,,,,, car needed a omp.

but ya look for it to come your way,,,,, when was the last time your rep was at your shop,,,,, the warrenty rep that is?

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thursday, but like i said we've only seen 1 modded 8 so far. they are shipping us a motor off the assembly line for it, cause its got a misfire we cant fix. he's got a cat back on it.....

darkducati 05-21-2005 06:30 PM

Let me ask you both a question. How would the dealer react if I came in complaining about low power and whipped out dyno sheets to prove it? I also have that random missfire won't go away.

j9fd3s 05-21-2005 06:49 PM

[quote name='darkducati' date='May 21 2005, 03:30 PM']Let me ask you both a question. How would the dealer react if I came in complaining about low power and whipped out dyno sheets to prove it? I also have that random missfire won't go away.

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dyno confuses the car, seriously. its not just the rx8, my fd doesnt dyno right either, the boost curve is off on the dyno.



for the misfire, have you taken the car in to have it looked at/codes read? its not gonna fix itself

darkducati 05-22-2005 11:25 AM

[quote name='j9fd3s' date='May 21 2005, 03:49 PM']dyno confuses the car, seriously. its not just the rx8, my fd doesnt dyno right either, the boost curve is off on the dyno.



for the misfire, have you taken the car in to have it looked at/codes read? its not gonna fix itself

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[/quote]When I dynoed the car it ran 164WHP and almost all the other dyno runs I see are around 180-185. The local dealers are all idiots. They reflash and scratch their heads. They don't seem to really give a **** whether I have a problem or not so the dealer is always my last resort. Anyway the misfire was gone for awhile and then resurfaced again the other day. I guess I have to suck it up and go back to the dealer.

Black8 05-24-2005 10:59 AM

[quote name='darkducati' date='May 22 2005, 08:25 AM']When I dynoed the car it ran 164WHP and almost all the other dyno runs I see are around 180-185. The local dealers are all idiots. They reflash and scratch their heads. They don't seem to really give a **** whether I have a problem or not so the dealer is always my last resort. Anyway the misfire was gone for awhile and then resurfaced again the other day. I guess I have to suck it up and go back to the dealer.

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Didn't Ryan have a multiple misfire code that nobody could cure? I believe it just needed the stomp on brake pedal 20 times thing to cure it, but it took a new engine for them to realize......



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/index.php?...topic=47135&hl=

j9fd3s 05-24-2005 09:34 PM

[quote name='darkducati' date='May 22 2005, 08:25 AM']When I dynoed the car it ran 164WHP and almost all the other dyno runs I see are around 180-185. The local dealers are all idiots. They reflash and scratch their heads. They don't seem to really give a **** whether I have a problem or not so the dealer is always my last resort. Anyway the misfire was gone for awhile and then resurfaced again the other day. I guess I have to suck it up and go back to the dealer.

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we have one thats doing this too, we cant get the car to do it, and the check engine light isnt usually on when we get the car, although there are misfire codes.



we replace the coils sometimes too.

darkducati 05-25-2005 04:40 AM

[quote name='darkducati' date='May 22 2005, 08:25 AM']When I dynoed the car it ran 164WHP and almost all the other dyno runs I see are around 180-185. The local dealers are all idiots. They reflash and scratch their heads. They don't seem to really give a **** whether I have a problem or not so the dealer is always my last resort. Anyway the misfire was gone for awhile and then resurfaced again the other day. I guess I have to suck it up and go back to the dealer.

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[/quote]That cured it for a while, but it eventually came back.



[quote name='j9fd3s' date='May 24 2005, 06:34 PM']we have one thats doing this too, we cant get the car to do it, and the check engine light isnt usually on when we get the car, although there are misfire codes.



we replace the coils sometimes too.

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[/quote]Mine does it at high RPM when it's hanging. For example if you we're driving fast on backroads and going through a sweeper in 3rd gear and had it at 6k through the corner, it would start flashing. It's at the dealer now so we'll see what they say.

darkducati 05-25-2005 06:52 PM

I got the car back from the dealer and it was reflashed.....again. They did however locate the source of a clanking noise that occured when lifting off the throttle, which is apparently from a broken driveshaft. I guess we'll see what happens.

Judge Ito 05-26-2005 08:02 AM

my warranty was taken away. ask me if I care? car runs a thousand times better under my care..

1revnrex 05-26-2005 08:19 AM

[quote name='Judge Ito' date='May 26 2005, 09:02 AM']my warranty was taken away. ask me if I care? car runs a thousand times better under my care..

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Holy **** he IS alive! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Judge Ito 05-26-2005 09:16 AM

[quote name='1revnrex' date='May 26 2005, 01:19 PM']Holy **** he IS alive! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

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yeap. and hopefully big things will be happening soon...

Black8 05-26-2005 09:22 AM

[quote name='Judge Ito' date='May 26 2005, 06:16 AM']yeap. and hopefully big things will be happening soon...

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Yeah....there better be pics too!!!!





hahahhaha



Just playing Ito....glad to see you around again.....

Cheers! 05-26-2005 09:44 AM

[quote name='Judge Ito' date='May 26 2005, 08:02 AM']my warranty was taken away. ask me if I care? car runs a thousand times better under my care..

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I'm not a fan of warranty. However, I do like the warranty for items such as poor workmanship when installing a door panel and the it was crooked when I got the car or whatever. But buying a new car means yuo are buying the warranty as well. When yuo get your warranty revoked then it feels like they are overcharging u for your car...



Remember time = money. I'm sure you could be making more money fixing customer cars at 70 bucks an hour instead of fixing your own car for -70 bucks an hour.

vosko 05-26-2005 11:52 AM

if you are gonna spend that much to have a NEW car with no warranty. you might as well buy a FD and go crazy..... and have money to buy a nice daily driver too!



don't get me wrong i like the rx8 but i don't think everyone here has extra money for new carbon fiber driveshafts on a $30k car with a few thousand miles on it and other driveline parts

fc3sboy1 05-26-2005 06:55 PM

i being a tech was told to report if i see any mods or anything to my dsm but what i do not wish to see or dont see is unreportable right . so lets say a rx-8 comes in with a intake , exhaust , header or what not or even n20 or co2 , i did not see it cause that stuff can all be taken off when a real repair for warrenty is needed. just dont let my dsm know.

j9fd3s 05-26-2005 10:08 PM

[quote name='Judge Ito' date='May 26 2005, 06:16 AM']yeap. and hopefully big things will be happening soon...

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good!

kel rx8 06-03-2005 12:50 PM

kind of scary

but thanks for the heads up.

Tom93R1 06-06-2005 06:47 PM

So they are pulling the whole warranty if you have any engine / power mods? As in, you add a header and your door panel falls off, that problem is no longer something they will have to deal with? Thats pretty lame.

j9fd3s 06-08-2005 09:40 AM

[quote name='Tom93R1' date='Jun 6 2005, 03:47 PM']So they are pulling the whole warranty if you have any engine / power mods? As in, you add a header and your door panel falls off, that problem is no longer something they will have to deal with? Thats pretty lame.

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maybe our guy is cool, but we've never done that, and ive been working for mazda on and off since 1997.

cymfc3s 06-08-2005 01:43 PM

Well, I can't speak for Mazda, but Subaru is super super ****. I had one tire fail on me when I had appx 10k miles on the car. I replaced that tire and then took it in for an oil change and they said that if I didnt change ALL my tires so they would all be the same wear, they would void my warranty. The difference between the new and old tires was negligable. So, I ended up getting 4 new tires when I didnt have to.



Now, it could have just been the dealer, who knows. But, the moral of the story is that if you have anything that is obviously not stock and you think it may come into question, don't bring the car into the dealer in that condition. Many of the subaru dealers document mods in the notes of the work order of a regular service and it came come back and bite you when the car breaks.



With the WRX it wouldnt be such a problem for minor mods, but so many kids go out and mod the hell out of them, blow them up (engine/tranny.) When they to get it warrantied and Subaru of North America gets all bent out of shape and cracks down on the dealers that does the claims. Hopefully the RX8 won't be as bad as it with the WRX...

Cheers! 06-08-2005 02:05 PM

[quote name='cymfc3s' date='Jun 8 2005, 01:43 PM']Well, I can't speak for Mazda, but Subaru is super super ****. I had one tire fail on me when I had appx 10k miles on the car. I replaced that tire and then took it in for an oil change and they said that if I didnt change ALL my tires so they would all be the same wear, they would void my warranty. The difference between the new and old tires was negligable. So, I ended up getting 4 new tires when I didnt have to.



Now, it could have just been the dealer, who knows. But, the moral of the story is that if you have anything that is obviously not stock and you think it may come into question, don't bring the car into the dealer in that condition. Many of the subaru dealers document mods in the notes of the work order of a regular service and it came come back and bite you when the car breaks.



With the WRX it wouldnt be such a problem for minor mods, but so many kids go out and mod the hell out of them, blow them up (engine/tranny.) When they to get it warrantied and Subaru of North America gets all bent out of shape and cracks down on the dealers that does the claims. Hopefully the RX8 won't be as bad as it with the WRX...

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Yup same goes for me. I have a 2003 subaru legacy GT. I was advised by my local subaru club that when u bring the car in to the dealer it has to look 100% stock. I had two complaints. One was a deffective steering wheel where in it wasn't perfectly round. I got that replaced. My second was that all the brake rotors were warped. I didn't even hammer on the car. Needless to say it was the middle of winter and I was advised to go take off the snow steelies and witner tires and mount the alloys and re92s for that one day before I take it back to teh dealer. Apprently legacy GTs like to eat rotors up. A person had the similar problem with me and when he showed up in snow tires and steelies the dealership said that he improperly torqued his lug nuts and caused the rotors to warp and thereby denying his claim.

cymfc3s 06-08-2005 03:08 PM

[quote name='Cheers!' date='Jun 8 2005, 11:05 AM']Yup same goes for me. I have a 2003 subaru legacy GT. I was advised by my local subaru club that when u bring the car in to the dealer it has to look 100% stock. I had two complaints. One was a deffective steering wheel where in it wasn't perfectly round. I got that replaced. My second was that all the brake rotors were warped. I didn't even hammer on the car. Needless to say it was the middle of winter and I was advised to go take off the snow steelies and witner tires and mount the alloys and re92s for that one day before I take it back to teh dealer. Apprently legacy GTs like to eat rotors up. A person had the similar problem with me and when he showed up in snow tires and steelies the dealership said that he improperly torqued his lug nuts and caused the rotors to warp and thereby denying his claim.

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Hate the hijack this thread. Sorry everybody. But, your not the only one tearing up rotors. Im on the 2nd set of rotors. And I had my new rotors turned a few weeks ago because they were warped already. I dont track it either, its my daily.

j9fd3s 06-08-2005 10:28 PM

our rep just had us warranty the undertray on his car, he hit something and it was mostly missing https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

Fe3Boost 06-16-2005 07:05 PM

After having lots of issue with my 8 I call 1800 lemonlaw and they got me 4500 bucks. **** mazda!!! Stick it to the man.



-Ryan

darkducati 06-18-2005 04:04 PM

[quote name='Fe3Boost' date='Jun 16 2005, 04:05 PM']After having lots of issue with my 8 I call 1800 lemonlaw and they got me 4500 bucks. **** mazda!!! Stick it to the man.



-Ryan

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And if enough of you do that, they will take the rotary from us again. Nothing personal, just food for thought.

chrism 06-26-2005 01:07 PM

have none of these dealers heard of magnussen moss act?

jlogins 07-20-2005 06:29 PM

So you guys put all kinds of parts on your car that change the factory specs and it breaks, assuming that’s its a related system you think that Mazda should cover that? That crazy put yourself in their shows.



Additionally My Fd was super reliable until I started adding aftermarket parts. In the first 80,000 mile I lost one cat, radiator and a water pump. All other service was wear related. When I replaced the cat I didn't the whole exhaust and intake system. The motor blew 7000 miles later. While 87,000 mile is about average for an FD I still think if I would have left stock she would have hung in there longer. I had the engine rebuilt and turbos replace and other go fast goodies install to the tune of 10,000 and I fully expect to join the club of un reliable Rx-7 owners. I'm also getting well over 100 hp gain to the rear wheels something that doesn't seem possible with RX-8 heavily moded cars are struggling to get into the 13's hardly seems worth it to me for 30k plus mods.

Black8 07-20-2005 08:22 PM

yeah yeah yeah.....enough already....no **** the FD is a faster car than the RX8.....



what the hell does that have to do with warranties?


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