LARGE PRICE DROP: FS: Portland, OR| $13,900 25k motor 45k chasis
03-21-2007, 04:01 PM
#1
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Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 23
Hey,
Still selling the RX-7, it is sitting at Pineapple Racing.
Details can be found here: http://www.rotaryengineillustrated.com/1993RX7/
It appears to be leaking some oil from the oil pan, the 3rd generation problem. It has the Pineapple Racing deep sump, it was mentioned that if the gasket was replaced it may fix the problem. Willing to drop price dramatically less than $14,000 for the car. Runs great, lightly modded, extremely motivated to sell the automobile. Paying insurance and storage, for having the car sit in a garage for 3 months now. Only minor thing is really the small oil leak, which I'm sure is the pan. Will give you a great deal on the car. Feel free to call 503.484.8258 on my cell, car is currently sitting at Pineapple Racing
-Wesley
Still selling the RX-7, it is sitting at Pineapple Racing.
Details can be found here: http://www.rotaryengineillustrated.com/1993RX7/
It appears to be leaking some oil from the oil pan, the 3rd generation problem. It has the Pineapple Racing deep sump, it was mentioned that if the gasket was replaced it may fix the problem. Willing to drop price dramatically less than $14,000 for the car. Runs great, lightly modded, extremely motivated to sell the automobile. Paying insurance and storage, for having the car sit in a garage for 3 months now. Only minor thing is really the small oil leak, which I'm sure is the pan. Will give you a great deal on the car. Feel free to call 503.484.8258 on my cell, car is currently sitting at Pineapple Racing
-Wesley
04-02-2007, 12:56 AM
#4
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Woodstock, Georgia
Posts: 583
Man, that is one rediculously clean MB....
I miss mine, now. Darn you! lol
It's a shame, though, if not for being in the military, and bouncing all over the place, I'd be more than happy to give that baby a new home.
Good luck on the sale. The next owner is going to be in for a nice surprise with this one.
I miss mine, now. Darn you! lol
It's a shame, though, if not for being in the military, and bouncing all over the place, I'd be more than happy to give that baby a new home.
Good luck on the sale. The next owner is going to be in for a nice surprise with this one.
04-08-2007, 03:21 PM
#5
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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This post is a warning concerning the unethical and fraudulent business practices utilized by “kazisdaman,” a/k/a Wesley (Wes) Mahler. I did not actually discover the majority of the materials referenced by this posting; several other users and I compiled our collective accounts and experiences into what is shown below. My thanks to all those that brought Mr. Mahler’s schemes to our attention. I enjoy my RX-7 as much as anyone, and want to bring others into the RX community; people like Mr. Mahler have no place in it and give us all a bad name. (God forbid that anyone attempting to purchase their first RX-7 run across a shyster like you, Wes. It’s worth the 30 minutes it took to edit and crank this out to make sure that word gets out about you and your ilk. That includes the gang of “entrepreneurs” that cheered you on via your blog as you detailed to them your plan to screw someone over.)
Most shady individuals/companies that conduct transactions through RX-7 forums such as this one are ferreted out rather quickly. However, due to the fact that Mr. Mahler is usually a mere spectator in the various online communities, he has largely escaped notice. My intent is to inform the RX-7 community at large of the circumstances surrounding Mr. Mahler’s attempted sale of an allegedly clean RX-7 and the general manner in which he chooses to conduct his “business.” What follows is an accounting of facts and some theories and assumptions that logically follow. Read it, and decide for yourself whether this individual is a “student entrepreneur” or a two-bit con artist-in-training. (Try to have a glass of water and some Tylenol handy. Reading quotes from Mr. Mahler’s blog can give you a headache. His lack of interest in school is reflected in his grammar, punctuation, and spelling, and the effect is that of reading a first-grader’s homework, written in crayon.)
Several months ago, I noticed Mr. Mahler’s attempts to move his 1993 Montego Blue/Touring FD (I don’t recall the date that he first posted the car). What initially attracted my attention was the sub-50K odometer reading. I was interested, of course, because low-mileage FD’s are rare, so I told several of my friends and acquaintances, both on- and offline, about Mr. Mahler’s website, www.rotaryengineillustrated.com, in hopes that they could make a deal for the car. The site contained an elaborate advertisement for the car (http://rotaryengineillustrated.com/1993RX7/) (the advertisement is still up, as of the date of this posting). (As you can tell from Mr. Mahler’s comments, quoted later in this posting, he’s pretty proud of his multimedia design abilities.)
At that time, the site also contained a link to a much more detailed account of the condition and history of the car. This page claimed that the car was purchased by Mr. Mahler from an attorney who had always garaged the car and kept it in good condition. The page also contained an extensive mod list and briefly mentioned past work done on the car. The latter included a recent paint job that was necessitated by vandalism - which Mr. Mahler characterized as minor - and the replacement of the driver-side window due to a theft in which the after-market unit was ripped out and the plastic surrounding the stereo slot was damaged by a screwdriver. Further, Mr. Mahler mentioned a broken interior compartment lid. About the same time Mr. Mahler re-listed his FD (http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=634857) (similar postings exist for nopistons.com), this more extensive description of the car disappeared from his website. The detailed page was not cached by Google, Internet Archive, or any other caching tool that I have checked, but a buddy of mine said that he saved the page while it was up (he almost put in an offer) and might still have it.
The two preceding paragraphs provide a backdrop against which the following items may be evaluated.
1. When Mr. Mahler re-listed the car (see above link), there was no mention of the broken plastic components, broken window, or vandalism that necessitated the repaint job. Instead, Mr. Mahler pointed out that it’s sitting at Pineapple Racing in Portland, Oregon, and directed viewers to the original, vague description of the car (http://rotaryengineillustrated.com/1993RX7/). Although the array of pictures is thorough and impressive, it doesn’t serve to convey the critical information about the car – namely, the history of modifications, body damage, and vandalism.
However, some light is shed on the latter two topics here, in two posts that pre-date his listing of the car:
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=496821 (Mr. Mahler complains about a break-in)
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=594816 (Mr. Mahler again complains about a break-in – possibly the same one as before - and theft of his Bose head unit, for which he seeks a replacement)
Strangely enough, Mr. Mahler doesn’t mention any of this in his “for sale” postings. Most prospective buyers I know would think it relevant to sale negotiations that multiple interior components are damaged, the “original” stereo head unit isn’t actually original, and that one of the door panels was removed and reinstalled - and one of the windows was replaced - by an amateur mechanic who obviously didn’t know what he was doing at the time.
2. Mr. Mahler claims that his car is a clean, low-mileage find that would be a great deal for the right buyer. “Clean” must be pretty subjective, because he continually implies that the car has always been well-cared-for and has avoided substantial damage. As the following links demonstrate, Mr. Mahler is either delusional or a liar.
(Direct quotes taken from posts or web pages are in quotations.)
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=583678
“When Angry Brothers Attack Fd Rx-7!
________________________________________
Well, this happend about 2-3 months ago, but I just thought I post it.
This is what happened outside my house, when my older brother attacked my car, please note hes mentally ill and doesn't think right. But this is what a RX-7 looks like, when it has been kicked 13 times.
http://www.corvallisppl.com/rx7”
The thread and exterior link detail the damage that Mr. Mahler’s “brother” allegedly did to the car last summer. From the photos, it appears that steel-toe boots and a baseball bat, among other implements, must have been used to pound on the body and windshield. According to Mr. Mahler, his “brother” is mentally disturbed and had to be restrained from further damaging the car by inserting a water hose into the interior and flooding it. “Clean” car, eh? Funny, he never mentions the subsequent, extensive body work when he’s pitching the car. Ahhhh, you gotta love honesty in commerce. (Btw, I have archived images of all of the linked sites contained herein, should anyone want to view them, in the event that Mr. Mahler finally wises up and starts covering his tracks.)
3. Here’s the kicker: not only has Mr. Mahler criminally (that’s right, I checked, he’s attempting to commit consumer fraud, compounded by the fact that he’s doing it over the internet) misrepresented the condition of the car that he’s selling, he’s doing it with obvious intent and with a significant amount of planning. How do I know this? It’s simple, really…I know it because Wesley Jingyee Mahler is a complete and total dumbass. (I’m using his full name here because, quite frankly, the only time anyone uses my full name anymore is when they’re pissed at me or think I’ve done something that’s shitballs crazy. Posting your scam gameplan online not only qualifies as shitballs crazy, it crosses over into “how do you survive without someone around to keep sharp objects out of your hands?” This was THAT stupid.) He’s got a blog in which he posts all of his ill-conceived, get-rich-quick internet and real estate projects, and he decided that, in this age of heightened internet use, bragging about his plan to defraud Joe Consumer would make for great reading material.
In the following links, Mr. Mahler describes his practice of posting fake car listings via autotrader.com, craigslist, and ebay, and most likely nopistons.com, rx7club.com, and any other forum out there that supports classifieds. He gleefully braggs about putting up pages that mirror the stats on his car, but ask significantly more on price, so that his actual listing will look more attractive. Moreover, he ADMITS that it isn’t ethical, but shrugs and figures anything goes. He then goes into a detailed description of how he’s going to rig the test-drive and have his buddies call him during those test-drives to “trick” the driver into thinking there are multiple offers. I’m getting nauseous just thinking about what kind of sick mind gloats about having no concept of right and wrong. Here are the links and selected passages (again, in quotations).
http://www.wesmahler.com/page/5/
“1993 Mazda RX-7 Sales Page Done - Now Posting Fakes
December 17th, 2006 by Wes Mahler
Ok, today I just finished making the sale page for my RX-7, check it out by here:
• http://rotaryengineillustrated.com/1993RX7/
In all honestly, I probably am spending to much time on getting this car ready for sale. However, it did need alot of extra work, and still gota fix like two small things on it. If one or two things are wrong on the car, then the buyer seems to question everything else about the car, “what else might be wrong with it.” There is the sales page, as you can see, I bet you have never seen a website with a car with that much detail. However, Ebay has comparable sales pages, there are not any like this on a LOCAL level, that can compete with the pictures, and detail in the posting. This will separate serious buyers, so what I’m going to do right now is list some fakes on craigslist. Unfortunately, I will not be able to do the tactic on auto trader, because it costs money.
Here is the craigslist listing for the fake:
• http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/250186776.html <Note: link no longer active – SS>
Notice how ugly the ad is, and I put the asking price very high at $23,000. I will be posting mine, the real one, later today, or tommorow, I just have to fix a small thing on my sun roof. I’am asking $19,500 for mine, so after people look at theses others, mine will look even more appealing.”
And again, from that same page:
“Never Sell A Car Like You Do - Because It Sucks!
December 16th, 2006 by Wes Mahler
Today I’m going to get the interior and the engine bay of my 1993 Mazda RX-7 detailed and afterwards putting it up for sale, around $18,000-$20,000. I’m going to use my trick to arbitrarily increas the market value of my car, which then, I had another idea will make it sell even faster ontop of my trick. So I have stickers on my car, that say “FOR SALE”, with my phone number, because I can make with with my sticker machine. I placed them on the front and rear window of the Mazda.
Along with the other trick with posting multiple cars similar to mine, if someone comes to test drive the car, or see it. I will have someone call my cellphone, make sure the viewing buyer sees me pickup my phone, and start talking to a fake buyer, who appears extremely interested in seeing and buying my car. So, I just call one of my friends ahead of time to let them know to call me when the buyer shows up, who is in for a surprise!
Now I’am by no means ripping off the customer, the car runs excellent, it has a brand new paint job <NOTE: the little weasel doesn’t state WHY it has a new paint job>, the interior is great, the whole thing was just detailed, and there is low miles on the car. I’m simply selling it because I’m purchasing a investment property instead with the money, a much smarter move. The buyer will arrive check out the car, test driver it, and then I will receive the call from another buyer, which will make it appear to the real buyer that this car is in heavy demand. Which it is, there are not many like it for sale. So that increases time pressure, and a fear of loss (emotion).
Ontop of this, I make the drive extremely pleasureable when the buyer goes to test driver it. Before they show up, I’ll ask them what their favorite music is, song, or whatever, burn some mp3s with their favorite music and have the disc ready in the car when they show up. That way, when they are driving experiencing the 329RWHP twin turbo RX-7, with the blowoff valve, the extremely comfortable race car feeling interior, with the windows down, and sunroof down, driving their favorite music in a top of a line BOSE 5 point speaker system with a built in-center channel for maximum ambience!
Also remember, I also used my trick in increasing the market value of my car arbitarily with craigslist, and other sources. With my friend calling to see the car, and a buyer who is emotionally in love with the car because how nice it is, and their favorite jams, now with a fear of loss. I’m telling you, I think this is a grand slam, and I’m going to do it, and document the success of it on this blog.
Humans are emotional beings, people act on emotions, not thought. I’m not selling the car, selling is bad, no, instead, I’m making the customer want to buy! When you bought a car, did you look at all the facts, how much tire pressure, the horsepower, the little small stuff, or did you buy because of the feeling of driving your brand new car, the smell of the interior, the looks, the music, the enjoyement and thrill of driving an automobile? Humans are emotionally beings, people act on emotions.”
http://www.wesmahler.com/interesting-strat...alue-arbitarily
“Interesting Strategy to Sell a Car, Increasing the value arbitarily
December 12th, 2006 by Wes Mahler
I just had an incredible idea, and had to write it down. As I prepare to sell my 93 Mazda RX-7, I had an interesting idea how to artifically increase the perceived value of the car. Maybe a little bit unethical, but smart non the less. This would only work on cars that have limited supply, you will see below.
What if I was to put my car up for sale, there are only about a couple if that on AutoTrader, and only 1 one craigslist. When people are viewing my car, they are going to look at others to see what they are going for. Craigslist is free, what if I was to post maybe 2-3 more RX-7s similiar to mine on there, cars I do not even own, and put an artifcally high cost on the cars, and if someone emails can always say they where sold.
In other words, selling your car, and putting up other cars for sale on craigslist or where-ever that you do not actually own to artifically make the car seem more valuable.
Example:
• Post my car on craigslist for 20k
• Post another one, different color similiar model for 25k
• Post a third one, different color similiar model for 23k
Interesting? I think it is, and think it would be worth my while to do it for my car. There is only one other RX-7 for sale on craigslist at the moment, and I’d put it in autotrader too, but not pay for that one. This is a simple technique I just figured out, but, we can apply it to all different areas of life too. What do you guys think?”
And, believe it or not, his gang of “entrepreneur” cronies actually posted encouragement of these tactics on his blog. God help these brainless idiots.
Oh, and here’s a pair of bonus hits – the ultimate ironies, Mr. Mahler laughing at a “scam” warning and then him lamenting the existence of those who would stick it to others in life.
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=592588
In one of the pages mentioned above (http://www.wesmahler.com/page/5/), Mr. Mahler goes all story-time on his audience and tells a fable about a frog that helps a scorpion across a river. The frog suspects that the scorpion will sting him, but the scorpion finds all sorts of ways to discredit the frog’s paranoia and bolster his own case for needing help. Finally, the frog relents. In the middle of the river, the scorpion, which is riding on the frog’s back, stings the frog and they both ultimately drown. When asked why he did it, the scorpion replies: “Because I’m a scorpion.” (Well, ok, Mr. Mahler’s version has the scorpion’s exit line as “Because I’am a scorpion,” but I did a little corrective editing. Seriously, Wes, get a grade-school grammar book or something.)
Why do I tell this story, well because simply, there are Scorpions in our lives, and they do evil, just because they can, it’s there nature. At 3am I was awoken by my car alarm, in the morning it turns out that someone slashed my rear left tire on my Integra, and threw a large rock at my driver’s side window in attempt to break it. Although I do think I know who did it, I won’t publicly say so on here. But I believe it to be the same person who also keyed my car, and keyed another one of my cars, and also totaled another one.
Why do I tell this story, well because simply, there are Scorpions in our lives, and they do evil, just because they can, it’s there nature. At 3am I was awoken by my car alarm, in the morning it turns out that someone slashed my rear left tire on my Integra, and threw a large rock at my driver’s side window in attempt to break it. Although I do think I know who did it, I won’t publicly say so on here. But I believe it to be the same person who also keyed my car, and keyed another one of my cars, and also totaled another one.
So, hopefully you see and understand why my friends and I felt the need to send out this information. Mr. Mahler has demonstrated that he’s not to be trusted. He’s a one-time college dropout (who knows, maybe OSU kicked him out again) who constantly tries to convince himself that “entrepreneurship” is a brilliant career move by preaching that those who attend school and “accept someone else’s opinion” are suckers. (Wes, I hope you read this. No offense, little man, but considering that you don’t have steady employment and actually LOSE money year in and year out, you’re in a rather poor position to be doling out career advice. Good luck with the real estate market, though. Your bit about having to inspect a faulty oil tank on a decrepit old house sounded fascinating.)
4. Well, I’ll be damned. I almost forgot something. Pineapple Racing, by and large, has a decent reputation, but apparently not good enough to survive employing Wesley Mahler. In a recent email to Steve Kan (one of the nation’s best tuners) at Gotham Racing in Fort Worth, Texas, a friend of mine asked about Pineapple’s reputation and the expectations my friend should have concerning the quality of Mr. Mahler’s car, assuming that Pineapple had done all of the work on it. Steve replied, diplomatically, that his experience was that the quality of work coming out of Pineapple was generally good, but that the word was that a couple of employees had caused the quality of work and the general reputation of the shop to suffer in recent years. My friend contacted Mr. Mahler’s old bosses at Pineapple, who, when asked about “Wes,” got strangely quiet and, after dancing around the issue of both Mr. Mahler and the history of his car, made up an excuse to get off the phone and conveniently forgot to call him back. Apparently, Wes wasn’t an ideal employee and his old bosses are well-aware of the pounding the car has previously received.
***Since this was first written, we’ve been shown several listings on nopistons.com and rx7club.com that look to be more of Wes Mahler’s “fake” listings, authored for the purpose of raising the price of his own FD. Take a look at the photos of the paperwork – Thompson’s garage shows up in several, as do several other documents that were in Wes’ original sale page. Mileage is probably listed around 46-47K. Don’t be fooled by this little *****. He’s just waiting for someone of whom he can take advantage.
Most shady individuals/companies that conduct transactions through RX-7 forums such as this one are ferreted out rather quickly. However, due to the fact that Mr. Mahler is usually a mere spectator in the various online communities, he has largely escaped notice. My intent is to inform the RX-7 community at large of the circumstances surrounding Mr. Mahler’s attempted sale of an allegedly clean RX-7 and the general manner in which he chooses to conduct his “business.” What follows is an accounting of facts and some theories and assumptions that logically follow. Read it, and decide for yourself whether this individual is a “student entrepreneur” or a two-bit con artist-in-training. (Try to have a glass of water and some Tylenol handy. Reading quotes from Mr. Mahler’s blog can give you a headache. His lack of interest in school is reflected in his grammar, punctuation, and spelling, and the effect is that of reading a first-grader’s homework, written in crayon.)
Several months ago, I noticed Mr. Mahler’s attempts to move his 1993 Montego Blue/Touring FD (I don’t recall the date that he first posted the car). What initially attracted my attention was the sub-50K odometer reading. I was interested, of course, because low-mileage FD’s are rare, so I told several of my friends and acquaintances, both on- and offline, about Mr. Mahler’s website, www.rotaryengineillustrated.com, in hopes that they could make a deal for the car. The site contained an elaborate advertisement for the car (http://rotaryengineillustrated.com/1993RX7/) (the advertisement is still up, as of the date of this posting). (As you can tell from Mr. Mahler’s comments, quoted later in this posting, he’s pretty proud of his multimedia design abilities.)
At that time, the site also contained a link to a much more detailed account of the condition and history of the car. This page claimed that the car was purchased by Mr. Mahler from an attorney who had always garaged the car and kept it in good condition. The page also contained an extensive mod list and briefly mentioned past work done on the car. The latter included a recent paint job that was necessitated by vandalism - which Mr. Mahler characterized as minor - and the replacement of the driver-side window due to a theft in which the after-market unit was ripped out and the plastic surrounding the stereo slot was damaged by a screwdriver. Further, Mr. Mahler mentioned a broken interior compartment lid. About the same time Mr. Mahler re-listed his FD (http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=634857) (similar postings exist for nopistons.com), this more extensive description of the car disappeared from his website. The detailed page was not cached by Google, Internet Archive, or any other caching tool that I have checked, but a buddy of mine said that he saved the page while it was up (he almost put in an offer) and might still have it.
The two preceding paragraphs provide a backdrop against which the following items may be evaluated.
1. When Mr. Mahler re-listed the car (see above link), there was no mention of the broken plastic components, broken window, or vandalism that necessitated the repaint job. Instead, Mr. Mahler pointed out that it’s sitting at Pineapple Racing in Portland, Oregon, and directed viewers to the original, vague description of the car (http://rotaryengineillustrated.com/1993RX7/). Although the array of pictures is thorough and impressive, it doesn’t serve to convey the critical information about the car – namely, the history of modifications, body damage, and vandalism.
However, some light is shed on the latter two topics here, in two posts that pre-date his listing of the car:
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=496821 (Mr. Mahler complains about a break-in)
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=594816 (Mr. Mahler again complains about a break-in – possibly the same one as before - and theft of his Bose head unit, for which he seeks a replacement)
Strangely enough, Mr. Mahler doesn’t mention any of this in his “for sale” postings. Most prospective buyers I know would think it relevant to sale negotiations that multiple interior components are damaged, the “original” stereo head unit isn’t actually original, and that one of the door panels was removed and reinstalled - and one of the windows was replaced - by an amateur mechanic who obviously didn’t know what he was doing at the time.
2. Mr. Mahler claims that his car is a clean, low-mileage find that would be a great deal for the right buyer. “Clean” must be pretty subjective, because he continually implies that the car has always been well-cared-for and has avoided substantial damage. As the following links demonstrate, Mr. Mahler is either delusional or a liar.
(Direct quotes taken from posts or web pages are in quotations.)
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=583678
“When Angry Brothers Attack Fd Rx-7!
________________________________________
Well, this happend about 2-3 months ago, but I just thought I post it.
This is what happened outside my house, when my older brother attacked my car, please note hes mentally ill and doesn't think right. But this is what a RX-7 looks like, when it has been kicked 13 times.
http://www.corvallisppl.com/rx7”
The thread and exterior link detail the damage that Mr. Mahler’s “brother” allegedly did to the car last summer. From the photos, it appears that steel-toe boots and a baseball bat, among other implements, must have been used to pound on the body and windshield. According to Mr. Mahler, his “brother” is mentally disturbed and had to be restrained from further damaging the car by inserting a water hose into the interior and flooding it. “Clean” car, eh? Funny, he never mentions the subsequent, extensive body work when he’s pitching the car. Ahhhh, you gotta love honesty in commerce. (Btw, I have archived images of all of the linked sites contained herein, should anyone want to view them, in the event that Mr. Mahler finally wises up and starts covering his tracks.)
3. Here’s the kicker: not only has Mr. Mahler criminally (that’s right, I checked, he’s attempting to commit consumer fraud, compounded by the fact that he’s doing it over the internet) misrepresented the condition of the car that he’s selling, he’s doing it with obvious intent and with a significant amount of planning. How do I know this? It’s simple, really…I know it because Wesley Jingyee Mahler is a complete and total dumbass. (I’m using his full name here because, quite frankly, the only time anyone uses my full name anymore is when they’re pissed at me or think I’ve done something that’s shitballs crazy. Posting your scam gameplan online not only qualifies as shitballs crazy, it crosses over into “how do you survive without someone around to keep sharp objects out of your hands?” This was THAT stupid.) He’s got a blog in which he posts all of his ill-conceived, get-rich-quick internet and real estate projects, and he decided that, in this age of heightened internet use, bragging about his plan to defraud Joe Consumer would make for great reading material.
In the following links, Mr. Mahler describes his practice of posting fake car listings via autotrader.com, craigslist, and ebay, and most likely nopistons.com, rx7club.com, and any other forum out there that supports classifieds. He gleefully braggs about putting up pages that mirror the stats on his car, but ask significantly more on price, so that his actual listing will look more attractive. Moreover, he ADMITS that it isn’t ethical, but shrugs and figures anything goes. He then goes into a detailed description of how he’s going to rig the test-drive and have his buddies call him during those test-drives to “trick” the driver into thinking there are multiple offers. I’m getting nauseous just thinking about what kind of sick mind gloats about having no concept of right and wrong. Here are the links and selected passages (again, in quotations).
http://www.wesmahler.com/page/5/
“1993 Mazda RX-7 Sales Page Done - Now Posting Fakes
December 17th, 2006 by Wes Mahler
Ok, today I just finished making the sale page for my RX-7, check it out by here:
• http://rotaryengineillustrated.com/1993RX7/
In all honestly, I probably am spending to much time on getting this car ready for sale. However, it did need alot of extra work, and still gota fix like two small things on it. If one or two things are wrong on the car, then the buyer seems to question everything else about the car, “what else might be wrong with it.” There is the sales page, as you can see, I bet you have never seen a website with a car with that much detail. However, Ebay has comparable sales pages, there are not any like this on a LOCAL level, that can compete with the pictures, and detail in the posting. This will separate serious buyers, so what I’m going to do right now is list some fakes on craigslist. Unfortunately, I will not be able to do the tactic on auto trader, because it costs money.
Here is the craigslist listing for the fake:
• http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/250186776.html <Note: link no longer active – SS>
Notice how ugly the ad is, and I put the asking price very high at $23,000. I will be posting mine, the real one, later today, or tommorow, I just have to fix a small thing on my sun roof. I’am asking $19,500 for mine, so after people look at theses others, mine will look even more appealing.”
And again, from that same page:
“Never Sell A Car Like You Do - Because It Sucks!
December 16th, 2006 by Wes Mahler
Today I’m going to get the interior and the engine bay of my 1993 Mazda RX-7 detailed and afterwards putting it up for sale, around $18,000-$20,000. I’m going to use my trick to arbitrarily increas the market value of my car, which then, I had another idea will make it sell even faster ontop of my trick. So I have stickers on my car, that say “FOR SALE”, with my phone number, because I can make with with my sticker machine. I placed them on the front and rear window of the Mazda.
Along with the other trick with posting multiple cars similar to mine, if someone comes to test drive the car, or see it. I will have someone call my cellphone, make sure the viewing buyer sees me pickup my phone, and start talking to a fake buyer, who appears extremely interested in seeing and buying my car. So, I just call one of my friends ahead of time to let them know to call me when the buyer shows up, who is in for a surprise!
Now I’am by no means ripping off the customer, the car runs excellent, it has a brand new paint job <NOTE: the little weasel doesn’t state WHY it has a new paint job>, the interior is great, the whole thing was just detailed, and there is low miles on the car. I’m simply selling it because I’m purchasing a investment property instead with the money, a much smarter move. The buyer will arrive check out the car, test driver it, and then I will receive the call from another buyer, which will make it appear to the real buyer that this car is in heavy demand. Which it is, there are not many like it for sale. So that increases time pressure, and a fear of loss (emotion).
Ontop of this, I make the drive extremely pleasureable when the buyer goes to test driver it. Before they show up, I’ll ask them what their favorite music is, song, or whatever, burn some mp3s with their favorite music and have the disc ready in the car when they show up. That way, when they are driving experiencing the 329RWHP twin turbo RX-7, with the blowoff valve, the extremely comfortable race car feeling interior, with the windows down, and sunroof down, driving their favorite music in a top of a line BOSE 5 point speaker system with a built in-center channel for maximum ambience!
Also remember, I also used my trick in increasing the market value of my car arbitarily with craigslist, and other sources. With my friend calling to see the car, and a buyer who is emotionally in love with the car because how nice it is, and their favorite jams, now with a fear of loss. I’m telling you, I think this is a grand slam, and I’m going to do it, and document the success of it on this blog.
Humans are emotional beings, people act on emotions, not thought. I’m not selling the car, selling is bad, no, instead, I’m making the customer want to buy! When you bought a car, did you look at all the facts, how much tire pressure, the horsepower, the little small stuff, or did you buy because of the feeling of driving your brand new car, the smell of the interior, the looks, the music, the enjoyement and thrill of driving an automobile? Humans are emotionally beings, people act on emotions.”
http://www.wesmahler.com/interesting-strat...alue-arbitarily
“Interesting Strategy to Sell a Car, Increasing the value arbitarily
December 12th, 2006 by Wes Mahler
I just had an incredible idea, and had to write it down. As I prepare to sell my 93 Mazda RX-7, I had an interesting idea how to artifically increase the perceived value of the car. Maybe a little bit unethical, but smart non the less. This would only work on cars that have limited supply, you will see below.
What if I was to put my car up for sale, there are only about a couple if that on AutoTrader, and only 1 one craigslist. When people are viewing my car, they are going to look at others to see what they are going for. Craigslist is free, what if I was to post maybe 2-3 more RX-7s similiar to mine on there, cars I do not even own, and put an artifcally high cost on the cars, and if someone emails can always say they where sold.
In other words, selling your car, and putting up other cars for sale on craigslist or where-ever that you do not actually own to artifically make the car seem more valuable.
Example:
• Post my car on craigslist for 20k
• Post another one, different color similiar model for 25k
• Post a third one, different color similiar model for 23k
Interesting? I think it is, and think it would be worth my while to do it for my car. There is only one other RX-7 for sale on craigslist at the moment, and I’d put it in autotrader too, but not pay for that one. This is a simple technique I just figured out, but, we can apply it to all different areas of life too. What do you guys think?”
And, believe it or not, his gang of “entrepreneur” cronies actually posted encouragement of these tactics on his blog. God help these brainless idiots.
Oh, and here’s a pair of bonus hits – the ultimate ironies, Mr. Mahler laughing at a “scam” warning and then him lamenting the existence of those who would stick it to others in life.
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=592588
In one of the pages mentioned above (http://www.wesmahler.com/page/5/), Mr. Mahler goes all story-time on his audience and tells a fable about a frog that helps a scorpion across a river. The frog suspects that the scorpion will sting him, but the scorpion finds all sorts of ways to discredit the frog’s paranoia and bolster his own case for needing help. Finally, the frog relents. In the middle of the river, the scorpion, which is riding on the frog’s back, stings the frog and they both ultimately drown. When asked why he did it, the scorpion replies: “Because I’m a scorpion.” (Well, ok, Mr. Mahler’s version has the scorpion’s exit line as “Because I’am a scorpion,” but I did a little corrective editing. Seriously, Wes, get a grade-school grammar book or something.)
Why do I tell this story, well because simply, there are Scorpions in our lives, and they do evil, just because they can, it’s there nature. At 3am I was awoken by my car alarm, in the morning it turns out that someone slashed my rear left tire on my Integra, and threw a large rock at my driver’s side window in attempt to break it. Although I do think I know who did it, I won’t publicly say so on here. But I believe it to be the same person who also keyed my car, and keyed another one of my cars, and also totaled another one.
Why do I tell this story, well because simply, there are Scorpions in our lives, and they do evil, just because they can, it’s there nature. At 3am I was awoken by my car alarm, in the morning it turns out that someone slashed my rear left tire on my Integra, and threw a large rock at my driver’s side window in attempt to break it. Although I do think I know who did it, I won’t publicly say so on here. But I believe it to be the same person who also keyed my car, and keyed another one of my cars, and also totaled another one.
So, hopefully you see and understand why my friends and I felt the need to send out this information. Mr. Mahler has demonstrated that he’s not to be trusted. He’s a one-time college dropout (who knows, maybe OSU kicked him out again) who constantly tries to convince himself that “entrepreneurship” is a brilliant career move by preaching that those who attend school and “accept someone else’s opinion” are suckers. (Wes, I hope you read this. No offense, little man, but considering that you don’t have steady employment and actually LOSE money year in and year out, you’re in a rather poor position to be doling out career advice. Good luck with the real estate market, though. Your bit about having to inspect a faulty oil tank on a decrepit old house sounded fascinating.)
4. Well, I’ll be damned. I almost forgot something. Pineapple Racing, by and large, has a decent reputation, but apparently not good enough to survive employing Wesley Mahler. In a recent email to Steve Kan (one of the nation’s best tuners) at Gotham Racing in Fort Worth, Texas, a friend of mine asked about Pineapple’s reputation and the expectations my friend should have concerning the quality of Mr. Mahler’s car, assuming that Pineapple had done all of the work on it. Steve replied, diplomatically, that his experience was that the quality of work coming out of Pineapple was generally good, but that the word was that a couple of employees had caused the quality of work and the general reputation of the shop to suffer in recent years. My friend contacted Mr. Mahler’s old bosses at Pineapple, who, when asked about “Wes,” got strangely quiet and, after dancing around the issue of both Mr. Mahler and the history of his car, made up an excuse to get off the phone and conveniently forgot to call him back. Apparently, Wes wasn’t an ideal employee and his old bosses are well-aware of the pounding the car has previously received.
***Since this was first written, we’ve been shown several listings on nopistons.com and rx7club.com that look to be more of Wes Mahler’s “fake” listings, authored for the purpose of raising the price of his own FD. Take a look at the photos of the paperwork – Thompson’s garage shows up in several, as do several other documents that were in Wes’ original sale page. Mileage is probably listed around 46-47K. Don’t be fooled by this little *****. He’s just waiting for someone of whom he can take advantage.
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