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I was recently selling my integra online, and was contacted by a guy name of Jimmy Cole in UK. He offered me my asking price with very little bargain. He said he would pay me with a cashier's check which will be issued/sent by a business associate of his in the US. He told me that the business associate owes him money in the amount greater than the price of my car and then asked me if I could send him the balance when I get the cashier's check. Surely, the cashier's check arrives, but being a paranoid ass that I am, I decide to wait for couple of weeks before I send anything out. I almost sent him the money when, the day after I deposited the cashier's check, I saw that I have available balance of $9900+. But I decided to hold it anyways, because now that he's sent me the money he's not going anywhere if the check is real, and if the check is fake, then I just saved my ass from getting ripped off $6000+.

Surely, about 2 weeks later, BofA withdrew $9900 from my account stating that the deposited item was fraudulent.



If I sent him the money, I would've owed the bank the money that I withdrew.



So be aware of this scam.



Ongoing thread in RX-7 Forum(You could read my emails with him in this post):

http://www.rx7club.com/forum/s...30080



Jay Kim

Nice, my cousin got screwed one time with a fake money order, nothing out of pocket, but lost the car.

People need to be shot.

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif same thing happened to me (didn't lose anything... i held it for two weeks)..



Watch anyone out of state, especially nigeria...

I got a hit from an ad that I sold over a year ago.. with the same exact verbage in the email. Also from the UK. The bastard even woke me up in the middle of the night to see if I had the car.

I was watching the news here in Houston and they JUST had a story on two Houstonians who just got fucked out of their money in the very same way.

Bastages!

i guess this is the reason why people dont want to accept checks anymore for purchases

The same guy is everywhere, trying to buy a transmission from me, and the same story went

-i have a partner that owes me money in US, he'll pay you and you send the transmission blah blah



there are many others like it, some obvious things about these type of scams:

- they have a generic e-mail sent out (can be sent to just about anyone)

- searches on the net for your topic so in the e-mail it would look like

"hello, i'm interested in your FS:1993 FD with 100k for $12,000 OBO ...."

that should give you a hint

-answers are almost instant (but then again i check my e-mail every 10 mins haha)

-promotes themselves first like " i'm a reputable businessman from UK etc etc"



bottom line is:

<^> the shady guys out there!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

dotn buy shti unless you know the person selling the product. Same with cars look at the car then buy it. There is a lot of that **** going on. People sell rx-7 for like 5,000, but they want the money order first. dont buy nothing unless you can personaly see the product. thats what i say

[quote name='rjuge' date='Nov 24 2003, 11:39 AM']https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif same thing happened to me (didn't lose anything... i held it for two weeks)..



Watch anyone out of state, especially nigeria...


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NIGERIA LMAO or more like WATCH OUT FOR AFRICA.....Damn Rebels will take anything if they get the chance.....LOL https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

[quote name='612_Rex7' date='Apr 27 2005, 07:12 PM']NIGERIA LMAO or more like WATCH OUT FOR AFRICA.....Damn Rebels will take anything if they get the chance.....LOL https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif


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What exactly are you trying to say?

[quote name='rjuge' date='Nov 24 2003, 01:39 PM']https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif same thing happened to me (didn't lose anything... i held it for two weeks)..



Watch anyone out of state, especially nigeria...


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Yeah, I've had about 1/2 dozen people try the same scam on me. The autotrader seems to atract these loosers. At this point I can recognize the scam on the first e-mail because they all say the same thing. They mention a client and ask for a final asking price. For some reason they have all been yahoo e-mail accounts in my experience though I suppose that doesn't really matter.

When a freind an I were looking for a MKIV supra a few months ago we must have encountered this scam like 75% of the time. Strange thing was almost all were from Italy and they claimed that they were overseas soldiers or something.

i saw one of those MK4 supras. My girlfriend and i emailed the guy and he wanted us to western union him the money before he shipped the car. I'll only buy from locals.

[quote name='donhayes' date='Jul 14 2005, 09:51 PM']i saw one of those MK4 supras. My girlfriend and i emailed the guy and he wanted us to western union him the money before he shipped the car. I'll only buy from locals.


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Yeah, I considred doing the whole E-bay thing. Or buying a car and having shipped. But after reading so many horror stories lately I've basically decided against it. If I want a distant car that bad I'll personally go and look at it.

A friend of mine sold a car to another person in Ohio and there was a problem with the title. Whether it was an honest mistake or not, the state where he sold it from said it was a stolen car. He brought the car over state lines to deliver it. The new owner couldn't get it titled, sued my friend and got the police involved. Bottom line is he got nailed with transporting stolen property over state lines. Since the car was sold for over $1000, he got busted. Lost the lawsuit, owes almost $100,000 in fines and lawyer fees and is starting a 5 year sentence in the state prison on Wednesday. Be careful.

glad you didnt get ripped... sorry to say but this has been around for a long time... i came across it in craigsList long time ago.. didnt look twice cause it sounded so lame... and sure enough i got three emails the same thing same excuse as on the others ...

i got myself into one of those scams just recently also. I have another car that i am selling and i put it on the craigs list and someone sent me 2550.00 and wanted me to mail them 2050.00 to nigeria africa. The money was in postal money orders and they were fakes. So be careful with what people send to u. Check it out very carefully before u cash anything. (hal) is the name on the RX-7 club NW forum.

These are the e-mails I've been getting from someone about my car...I'm worried it's a scam, too. :/



"Hello,

I wish to indicate interest in your vehicle for sale at $14000.Get back to me with available scanned pictures,information on the vehicle's service history and also the required payment time frame so that i could make arrangements for payment and pick up.

Regards,

George Stewart"



"Hello,

How are you? I just got your mail, I really appreciate your urgent response.My friend saw the ad on the internet and called my attention to it.Please give me a comprehensive detail about its present condition as well as its service history and as soon as this is done we will arrange for further proceedings.

Thanks

George Stewart"



"Hi Mike,

Thanks for your mail.My friend has reviewed the issue of sending a large check,with the waiting period required for it to clear and has decided to send you a down payment cashier's check of $8,000 being Part payment of the car cost.When you receive and cash it,you should let us know,so that the agent can proceed to your location to inspect the car. He will also test drive the car in your presence.On completion of this,the rest of the money ($6,000) will be paid to you in cash or direct wire transfer to your account before the agent picks up the car.I believe this is a better and simpler option.Please confirm the above scenario by sending your name,address and phone number for the down payment check,so that we can proceed with the transaction.As regards your note,i will call you at my convenience.

George Stewart"



"I received your mail and has conveyed its contents to Mr.Rupert,your payment is being processed and would be delivered next week via courier at your location address.I will get back to you with updates on the payment delivery.

George Stewart"



He basically says he'll send me a $8k deposit...wait for it to clear completely, then WHEN it does...he'll "send his agent" to see/feel the car... then if they like...I'll get the other $6k via wire transfer or w/e?



I gave him my name/mailing address/phone number...should I be worried?



o_O!!

I'd be a lot more cautious, and protective over your car, until you have confirmed it's real. I'd also invest in an alarm for your car (if you dont already have one), and a house alarm.

i also got scamed... i bought a 20B from rotaryworks.com, met him on thepartstrader.com sent him over 3K paid for the motor and engine porting, exhaust porting, and ect. would have been pushing over 500hp....... when the motor was "ready" he closed his forum, changed his home phone and cell number and his e-mail.... its been too long for me to do anything about it so all is lost.. i dont care about the money, i just want the motor...

man the same **** happened to my buddy in florida. He originally bought the car for $3000 but pretty much restored it. He just made the mistake of not getting the title because he said that he wasnt driving it so he didnt want to bother. He went to sell it to some dude in georgia and got pulled over on the way up thier after crossing state lines. transporting stolen property over state lines. now hes in jail has owe around $150000 in fines and lawyer fees. so dont buy cars unless you know that they are legit because that cars was stolen by the guy and he gave him a fake number and they cant trace it back.

It's the same story on the Bike Boards... Gota watch your step.

I;m actually in a bit of a spot with an old Thunderbird I sold to a buddies kid. Turns out the car wa a repo, (I never knew, Bank had paper work) but it was a repo and when I signed over the application for Title (Never titled in FL) the kid calls me back and says they won't title it. Turns out the car was repossed without the proper paperwork eer being filled out... Grrr....

I like to buy and sell RX-7's to make some $$ to keep my FD goin. I have had at least 4 scammers try to take my money (and the first one did) Simple as this: If it sounds too good to be true: IT IS. You see a nice car for $5,000 DONT GET GREEDY. And ALWAYS ask to see the car. Just for kicks, even if you are not in the same area as the possible scammar email the seller and say something to the effect of "i will be there this week visiting family" You will get a reaction similar to "oh i am not where the car is now"



On Ebay: beware of "closed auctions" scammers will leave their auctions open and then close them to "pre approved buyers only" this gets people luered into wanting the car. You are protected somewhat if you buy a car THROUGH ebay BUT! in order to be pre approved for an auction you MUST be put on a list by emailing the seller. This way the seller can get your contact information and contact you outside of ebay asking if you are interested in the car. That way it is almost impossible to track them AND you are not covered under Ebays policy. Do not buy a car outside of an auction from someone you get in contact through ebay.



Hope this helps. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/happy.gif



Sukai

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-Mazda-...1QQcmdZViewItem



Look! Its a REAL FRAUDLEANT auction! lol!



and a REAL FRAUDLEANT email. (some guy thinking i will give him my money) Can you tell? Start from the bottom up!



>From: ferriss larry

>To: Jamie Lessie

>Subject: Re: rx-7

>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:23:01 -0800 (PST)

>

>

> I already have a few offers for my car... However the sale price is

>$14,000 including shipping. The car is currently set at

> $13700 with a guy living in Trenton and another lady is willing to pay

>$14300 but not until late December. Both have seen the

> car and they liked it a lot. I can't go anything lower than $14000. If

>you can come up with the money this weekend before

> these guys, it's all yours.

>

>I'm the original owner of this vehicle, I have all the papers in order and

>in my name, carfax report available as well. It's

> garage kept and the paint is in excellent condition. See it to believe

>it. To answer your questions...no dents, scracthes

> some but hardly visible (I'm just being honest) ( https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif ), no rust.

>The engine is running great. I've never had problems with the car.No tune

>up is needed until 100,000miles, timing belt is

> good condition also. Never had smoke or fluid leaks. Interior is also

>clean. Don't have any pets nor smoke.

>...you'll believe it when you see it.

>

> I'm the technical representative for the the sales dept. at Trinity

>Holding Inc, and I travel a lot, with the sales team

> throughout the USA and Canada (now in San Antonio actually), and will

>not be there to hand it over or something like that. WTF?

> That's why I need to make this deal through eBay Motors Customer

>Department, and they will keep the funds until the purchase

> is final and you test it and accept it.

>(So basically the answer would be yes, you will be able to test it out, and

>if you won't like it Ebay will refund your

> payment and you send the vehicle back, in my shipping costs.)

>

>

>Jamie Lessie wrote:

> Could i come look at the car?

>

>Thanks,

>

>Jamie Lessie

That scam is old news.



Check this site out, they seek out these types of scammers and trick them into spending their money instead of recieving any.



http://419eater.com/



And yes, ALOT of Nigerians do this, he wasn't being a racist.

This is the part that would have tipped me off, HAHA. Never had any problems with the car? HAHA. And the timing belt??





When I was looking for an FD 3 and 4 years ago, the first three I looked at were scams. The first two were in Romania IIRC, and I think the last one was in Italy. Please. So I ended up flying out to Denver to check out my car first before I bought it and drove it all the way back to NC. Now I'm probably moving to Colorado Springs...if I'd only waited, haha.



Good luck to everyone. I think we should castrate all the scammers...or just kill them.

that's a horrible scam

bottom line is DONT SHIP YOUR CAR

Yeah there are many car scams going around beware all!

people that screw people out of their hard earned money should be hunted down and buried 6 feet down----Cant stand Liars, Haters and thieves

Someone from the UK tried to make me the victim of a scam regarding an Apple laptop computer for sale. It was advertised for sale for about $2,400.00. The scammer said that he would pay me my price plus shipping and $100.00 for my trouble by cashiers check, but asked that I declare that the value was only $100.00 and to list it as computer parts to avoid the high tariff. I agreed and received a check for something in the area of $2,700.00. I have forgotten the exact amounts because it has been several years. The buyer arranged prepaid shipping. I shipped the box and was contacted by the buyer complaining that it had arrived in customs and the declared price was $2,700.00, and he couldn't pick it up or inspect it without paying the tariff. I told the buyer that I didn't want to be dishonest and declare less than it was worth and risk arrest, so I declared the true value.



After a few days I checked the tracking number and found that the Apple computer box had been signed for and picked up, which meant that the tariff, in excess of $250.00, and the shipping had been paid. I am sure the buyer was very pleased when he opened his box containing old phone books that he paid over $300.00 for. SURPRISE!



I was so surprised to find that the check was no good, gee.

Re: Beware: Car Buying Scam
 

This is a common scam on eBay, Craig's list and many other car and other expensive item sales sources.

Back tracking them law enforcement will usually find that the final stop for your money is Nigeria, Russia, or SE Asia. (via clearing houses in Europe, or The Dominican Republic/Costa Rica area.)

It is so well known and yet people keep falling for it. It has many variations, including bogus U.S. Serviceman names supposed to be stationed in Europe.

Simple rule of thumb: Meet in person and be given cash in U.S. bills. If they are too distant for that, suggest they use PayPal. A scammer won't as PayPal verifies all funds used through them and prosecutes criminals.

3rd gen wanted
 

To whom it concerns:


Looking for a low mileage,untainted 3rd gen,as close to stock as possible!I've been saving for years!If sounds good,i'd fly there(i'm in PA),drive it and check it over,either ship home or drive home.Interested in any color,must be 5 speed,and original engine-NO RE-BUILDS!