Just thought you guys would like to know pre-ordering of the anti-detonation device is now available (April 2nd) through www.pg-unlimited.com If you have any questions or regards to this product feel free to email Shyde@pg-unlimited.com or Sgorman@pg-unlimited.com Thanks for all your interest!





--Nick

I think once and for all someone should finally explain what this damn thing is, and where it gets hooked up.



I'm sorry, but to just send $300 to buy some "thing" is absurd to me.

why keep it such a secret...... if its a good device, people will buy it.



is it so simple that people can actually copy this?.... is that why its such a secret?

April fools day?

RIGHT !!!!

Im willing to bet its an ignition timing controller that uses ion-sensing technology to "read" the combustion process, and alter the ignition timing accordingly. Ion-sensing does for ignition what O2 sensors do for air/fuel ratio.



Saab has used it on production cars, and theres a lot of info to be had on the internet. Happy hunting, and I hope I didnt spoil the "secret."

you didnt i promise https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Honeslty is this thing for real, cause i heard about this thing awhiel back and till now havewnt heard anyhting.

Who is Sgorman? Where are they located?

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png Hey Checked it out I know him very well. I will give him a call tommorro and let you all know what he says... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png Skip Gorman

All, we are very sorry for being so secretive with this device; we are just looking to protect our interest in the matter. The device could be easily copied and so we will try to saturate the market as much as possible before that happens. Please visit the Official site at www.pg-unlimited.com Skip Gorman has licensed this product to finally be sold via this site and also through several RX-7 tuner shops around the country. With pre-ordering starting on April 2, 2004 and a ship date of May 1, 2004, this will allow us the time required to finish up recruiting and contracting the remaining tuner shops interested in becoming dealers. On May 1, 2004, if everything goes well with recruiting, all your questions will be answered and full technical information will become available. Feel free to contact Skip or I, we will be happy to further explain this process with you.



PS. The talks about ion this and timing that, you will be surprised that this device is nothing of that nature. This product is based on no other technology available in today's market.



Thanks for your time.



Steven D. Hyde

Phone: 703-727-7048

E-mail: shyde@pg-unlimited.com

Web: www.pg-unlimited.com

this sounds like one of those april fools jokes to me... just j/k, im gonna look this one up on your site

would this product work for modified vehicles as well as stock?

Yes, you can add this to a modified rotary as long as it is tuned by a licensed RX-7/8 tuner shop.



Thanks,



Steven

licensed meaning? with your product? or in general?

Shops who are licensed to carry the product will also have special training classes to tune with the device.



Steven

would you be able to give us a list of these shops? obviously its not worth while for me if there are no authorized tuners around my area

As www.pg-unlimited.com has stated, a list of licensed tuners will be provided by May 1, 2004 to help debut the product. Let me assure you sir, once people start providing feedback about this product you will want to make the trip to a tuner to have this mod installed.



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Is KD Rotary an authorized shop?

How many have signed up?

What does it take to sign up if you are a shop?

Will Skip answer these? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png (I really like Skip we go back along ways)

Yes, I belive KD Rotary will be a licensed tuner shop if they wish to be so. We have two others which are in negotiations and to be a tuner shop you will have to contact Skip to discuss the details.



Unfortunately, Skip does not have time to answer the forum boards these days. He will answer e-mails sent to him at sgorman@pg-unlimited.com.



Thanks,



Steven

sooo....... just like water injection, this can be an extra insurance for high boosting high powered rotary engines?

That's correct. There is no "cure all" for detonation but it brings the safety margin really high. The device only weighs in under 1 pound.



Thanks,

mechanical or electrical?

hahaha...pre-order and you will find out...

hahaha...pre-order and you will find out...well may 1 i mean!

i want one

When you say it needs tuning by an authorized shop, what if you have a non "mainstream" ecu, like wolf, AEM, Microtech etc... Do these shops have the qualificatrions to "tune" these cars as well !? Or are we talking strictly, Haltech / Motech / Power FC !?



-DC

I'm proud to announce that KD Rotary from Nazareth, PA and Rick's Rotary Performance from Pleasanton, CA have signed up to be licensed dealers for the Anti-Detonation Device. We will be helping these shops get geared up for a full product release by the end of April 2004.



Thanks,



Steven Hyde

Will therebe a list of all the tuners on the website?

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png talking to skip right now, says works better with after market ecu. for finer tuning. works good with stock applications

what is the "after" pre-order price?



i'd rather wait this out til there is more detail about this

The "after" pre-order price could go up. As supply and demand goes up so to can the price you just never know...My advice would be to pre-order (I promise you will not be dissapointed in results)!



--Nick

does it need to be professionally intalled? or is it a diy kit?

The product doesnt necessarily need to be installed by a professional, however it DOES need to be professionally tuned!



--Nick

i had it done by skip on my fd and the way he explains it is that the proper tuning is just as important as the mod itself. if not tuned properly the mod won't work and of course it will be blamed on the mod itself.

i'm going back to get the final tuning done soon and it will be good to 20psi on pump gas safely. skip told me we're gonna try 22psi and see what the intake temps look like,and if they stay at a reasonable level we'll leave it at that for now.



mike

This "thing" sounds great, but I'll be damned if I shell out $300 for a product that I've never seen, read a review on, or learned how it works. Sorry if I'm stepping on toes... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/dry.png

its understandable, but you have to look at the installer. k.d. is definitely a reputable shop and i don't think they would ruin their rep with by selling something that doesn't work. imo

It sound like they offering a computer to retard timing and cut boost level off at the same time, that's why it need professional tuneing.