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tuxracer 05-10-2003 12:50 AM

I've been seriously thinking of ressurecting my FB, and turning it into my daily driver. Unfortunately she's been sitting

for over a year, and I would hate to fix her current problems only to discover the engine is bad.



For the porting I know I'd need some sort of air grinder, but what other special tools would I need? I would like to know what I'm getting into before I commit myself to anything.



Thanks in advance.

Fd3BOOST 05-10-2003 09:47 AM

Well you need some carbide burrs for the porting.

You'll need access to an air compressor.

For the engine your need sockets and wrenchs from 10mm to 19mm

Gotta have the rachit for the sockets, also a few extensions.

I think you need to have a few universal sockets to make lif eeasier. say 12mm and 14mm

You'll need a torque wrench that goes to 300ftlpd.

You'll need some vise grips.

you haved to have a bigass socket to fit the flywheel hub. I think its about 2 3/4"

And a breaker bar for that.

an engine hoist, 4 jackstands, and a hydraulic jack.

Thats about it.

tuxracer 05-10-2003 11:35 AM

I"ve got pretty much everything on that list except the carbide burrs, hoist, and torque wrench. Is there anything

special needed to seat the apex seals? Or to check to see if the housings and the like are in spec?



Thanks for the info

Fd3BOOST 05-10-2003 11:46 AM

Well yes you will need some good dial calipers and you could use a micrometer to make measurement on the plates.

you will need some coarse 220 grit sandpaper or a bench top grinder to clearance the side seals.

they need to be able to spring up and down freely but still be touching the corner seal.

It is very close clearance.



the apex seals, you'll want a rubber band t hold them in place maybe.



Oh and you'll need one big tub of vasoline LOL

Joe Flo 05-10-2003 01:56 PM


You'll need a torque wrench that goes to 300ftlpd.


Where can you find one of these? All my tools are craftsman and as far as I know they don't have any. I looked on the Snap-On website and theirs is $670!!

Apex13B 05-10-2003 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Flo' date='May 10 2003, 01:56 PM
Where can you find one of these? All my tools are craftsman and as far as I know they don't have any. I looked on the Snap-On website and theirs is $670!!

I know that MAC tools sells a 1/2 drive torquer that goes to 450ft/lbs for about $500, any torque wrench is going to be expensive.

Joe Flo 05-10-2003 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Apex13B' date='May 10 2003, 11:14 AM
[quote name='Joe Flo' date='May 10 2003, 01:56 PM']

Where can you find one of these? All my tools are craftsman and as far as I know they don't have any. I looked on the Snap-On website and theirs is $670!!

I know that MAC tools sells a 1/2 drive torquer that goes to 450ft/lbs for about $500, any torque wrench is going to be expensive. [/quote]

Yeah I know they are exspensive, that is why I keep borrowing my uncles. I don't mind paying that much as long as I am getting my moneys worth! Wasn't sure on how much one of that size would cost. I expected around $300. Boy was I off https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

j9fd3s 05-10-2003 03:12 PM

you dont need to torque the rear nut, you just go "its as tight as she'll go captian!" thats enough



mike

teknics 05-10-2003 03:18 PM

hmm i can get the snap-on one for 50% off, student discount.



in general snap-on is always way over-priced, the quality and warranties make up for it tho.



kevin.

Joe Flo 05-10-2003 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='May 10 2003, 12:18 PM
hmm i can get the snap-on one for 50% off, student discount.



in general snap-on is always way over-priced, the quality and warranties make up for it tho.



kevin.

I found my new best friend. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Hook a borther up!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png

93 R1 05-10-2003 03:42 PM

EBAY is the perfect place for used snap on tools

Fd3BOOST 05-10-2003 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='May 10 2003, 12:12 PM
you dont need to torque the rear nut, you just go "its as tight as she'll go captian!" thats enough



mike

I would say that Mike is probably right. I ipersonaly would rather know that is to spec though.

teknics 05-10-2003 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Flo' date='May 10 2003, 03:20 PM
[quote name='teknics' date='May 10 2003, 12:18 PM'] hmm i can get the snap-on one for 50% off, student discount.



in general snap-on is always way over-priced, the quality and warranties make up for it tho.



kevin.

I found my new best friend. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Hook a borther up!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png [/quote]

lol i seem to be the local hookup for friends and their parents, what you need? their biggest torque stick/wrench?



kevin.

spoolin 05-11-2003 04:29 PM

my torque wrench is a ingersoll-rand 231. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

rotary fury 05-11-2003 09:26 PM

columbia international automotive {CIA} 3/4 up to 600 ft/lb costed me $286 throgh sk tools and ya can get the socket at sears. hope this helps https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Joe Flo 05-11-2003 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='May 10 2003, 03:30 PM
[quote name='Joe Flo' date='May 10 2003, 03:20 PM'] [quote name='teknics' date='May 10 2003, 12:18 PM'] hmm i can get the snap-on one for 50% off, student discount.



in general snap-on is always way over-priced, the quality and warranties make up for it tho.



kevin.

I found my new best friend. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Hook a borther up!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png [/quote]

lol i seem to be the local hookup for friends and their parents, what you need? their biggest torque stick/wrench?



kevin. [/quote]

I don't need anything right now but I will send you a PM when I get the money for the wrench. Thanks

Justroln 05-16-2003 11:20 PM

I can hook up good deals on craftsman tools.

Judge Ito 05-18-2003 09:36 AM

I would advise to properly torque the flywheel nut to 375lbs of torque. Only because I have heard some horror stories and personally seen one guy loose 3 fingers when the flywheel came flying out.

I own a snap on 3/4 drive torque wrench that goes up to 600 ft lb I paid 500.oo bucks for it. I own the smaller one too for oil pump bolts and timing cover bolts and oil pan bolts. Proper torque is part of the secret to a happy engine.

rotary fury 05-18-2003 09:58 PM

i ve heard of people torking 400 ft/lb plus on ligth weigth flyweels any one else heard of this?

Meddle 05-19-2003 10:19 AM

You can alwaqys deal with the snap-on guy. No prices are set in stone. The one that comes to my dealership loves to trade as well.


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