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smiley-se 06-16-2004 02:09 AM

I bought and engine the guy thought he blew the whole thing but it was just a coolant seal and the apex seals still have spring to them. Its a gsl-se so it have 3mm I'm not for shure but I assum they 3 peice seals so I can't do bridge. What kind of numbers can I expect out of a big street port using a holly 600. Does any one no if I could do a half brige with the 3 peice seals.

'79rx7 06-16-2004 02:16 AM

GSL-SE are two piece seal

JDuncan 06-16-2004 03:50 AM

Aren't they only 2mm apex seals on the s3 13b?

83turbo 06-16-2004 06:56 AM

Racing Beat got ~225 HP from a street ported 6 port. The carb was installed "backwards" (ie carb secondaries to engine primaries) for best HP.

Yes - you can do a half bridge with GSL-SE seals. Just keep the corner piece pointed away from the bridge port.

bill shurvinton 06-16-2004 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by 83turbo' date='Jun 16 2004, 03:56 AM
Racing Beat got ~225 HP from a street ported 6 port. The carb was installed "backwards" (ie carb secondaries to engine primaries) for best HP.

Yes - you can do a half bridge with GSL-SE seals. Just keep the corner piece pointed away from the bridge port.

The power curve on the holley was awful though. It lost huge amounts in the low end to the mikuni 44, and only caught up at 7500RPM IIRC.



Not a good choice unless you are a holley type of guy with loads of suitably modified carbs lying around.

83turbo 06-16-2004 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by bill shurvinton' date='Jun 16 2004, 05:46 AM
The power curve on the holley was awful though. It lost huge amounts in the low end to the mikuni 44, and only caught up at 7500RPM IIRC.



Not a good choice unless you are a holley type of guy with loads of suitably modified carbs lying around.

Yeah, the side drafts had the best torque. Even the fuel injection was behind them (allegedly from injector spray pattern problems).



I have to wonder if the Holley fell short due to being a vacuum secondary and not having the secondary actuator "perfect".

Drago86 06-16-2004 03:25 PM

anyone got the graphs? sounds interesting.

kahren 06-16-2004 03:47 PM

btw that 225 was at the flywheel NOT at the wheels https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png just to make it clear

but that was also with the stock LIM

diabolical1 06-16-2004 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by JDuncan' date='Jun 16 2004, 12:50 AM
Aren't they only 2mm apex seals on the s3 13b?

nope ... they are 3 mm https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



tuning the Holley will require patience, but it will easily clear 200 HP (flywheel) on a streetport 13B, and you can retain excellent mid-to-high RPM power (based on my tastes)

smiley-se 06-16-2004 08:14 PM

Thanks alot everybody I'm glad to hear that 200 hp isn't going to be out of reach with a street port. Now that I know that I have 2 peice seals I might try a judge ito bridge. Does anyone have experience with the ito bridge. So which carb would be the best. Oh I have no loyalty to any carbs what ever gives me the best performance


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