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R1TT 02-19-2003 12:00 AM

Any one have experience with Racing Beats aluminum intermediate and rear side housings?, they are supposed to be lighter, but what about the fact that its relpacing the stock cast iron units?, is there an advantage cause the rotor housing are aluminum as well?

would there be any benifits or drawbacks because of the different expansion rates of the metals?

how about heat transfer pro's and con's between the two?

Strength of the material aluminum vs cast iron?

rx7tt95 02-20-2003 05:59 PM

They're aluminum but "plasma" coated on the surface which makes them extremely durable and almost wear proof. They are also much lighter and since the housings are aluminum, you have al/al expansion, ie. it isn't an issue any more. The main problem I see with them is obviously the cost. If you seriously grenade this engine, you're out a sh*tload of money :-( I'm willing to bet the engine will run cooler than a stock counterpart as well. If money isn't an object, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Michel

pengaru 02-20-2003 06:26 PM

the weight difference is great, and you have some great porting capabilities. I almost bought them for the motor I just built up but I'm saving that for the next motor, which I plan on using ceramic apex seals on too. I'd like to wait and see how much lighter the renesis rotors are and possibly use those also.



If you choose to use the RB housings, it would seem money is not a issue so you might want to check into ceramic apex seals and also the 2 piece eccentric shaft w/roller bearing on intermediate housing.

MAZDAROTARYPOWER 02-20-2003 07:07 PM

i thought the new renesis engine is smaller than a 13b. if so the rotors won't be interchangable.

TYSON 02-20-2003 07:28 PM

R1TT, Marco called them. They don't have all the plates in stock, and they don't make them anymore. Check this thread from the other forum

pengaru 02-20-2003 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by MAZDAROTARYPOWER' date='Feb 21 2003, 01:07 AM
i thought the new renesis engine is smaller than a 13b. if so the rotors won't be interchangable.

I'm not sure, but I don't think so. I believe it's the same size / displacement.



Actually, I'm pretty sure it is. Looking at the press pictures of the disassembled renesis it looks like they reused the casting for previous rotor housings even, the area for the exhaust port is still pressent (peripheral) just not machined out.



AFAIK the renesis is still a 13B. I may be mistaken though.

R1TT 02-20-2003 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Feb 20 2003, 05:28 PM
R1TT, Marco called them. They don't have all the plates in stock, and they don't make them anymore. Check this thread from the other forum

Damn only rear and intermediate, what the ass, seems okay if money were no object, but the motor would be like all aluminum , and one cast front side, hmmm

TYSON 02-20-2003 10:53 PM

They have no ports and they are set up for dry sump. You better have deep pockets.

R1TT 02-22-2003 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Feb 20 2003, 08:53 PM
You better have deep pockets.

haha I know, that's so true or you gots to rob a bank

DJ Rotor 02-24-2003 09:31 AM

I'm guessing they didn't make up the front housing because that's where the tension bolts thread into.



J


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