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Apex13B 02-05-2003 07:29 PM

i think that matching the ports on the uim and lim only about a 1/2 an inch down would not cause inlet charge reversion...porting the entire manifold on a N/A motor will have detremental effects..think of sucking a milkshake through a 2 inch wide straw...then suck it through a 1/2 inch straw :bigok:

setzep 02-05-2003 08:32 PM

I tried to pry this info from crispeed once. didn't work :( all I got was there is a lot of power in the intake manifold. I wanted to know what to port and how ect...

P'cola FD 02-05-2003 08:35 PM

I just briefly spoke with Steve Kan on AIM, and he said that it is a good idea, but not to go overboard. I asked him what overboard meant, and then he logged off. I'll seek clarification next time he logs on.

pengaru 02-05-2003 08:42 PM

I dunno, if you are running a ported motor it might be more like sucking a milk shake through a coffee stirrer.



I don't see any harm in matching the manifolds and smoothing out any imperfections in the castings (there are alot, my s4 manifolds were pretty nasty). One thing I noticed is when I got my housings back from mazdatrix the ports on the outside were larger than stock also, not just the ports on the faces. I port matched my LIM to these ports as it made no sense to me to have these ports larger if my LIM ports were significantly smaller than them, that difference is not good for flow or velocity... So I've tried my best to match them all up and smooth it out, the junctions should not have large abrupt differences in shape and/or size..

r_xplicit 02-05-2003 10:15 PM

i agree 100% as well. i do not think that with your intent, your actions will be detrimental to your performance. the casting on these manifolds is soo sketchy, it cold not hurt....i mean, it is good to increase the flow charachteristics of anything, to a certain extent....but it is when you think too big that you get into the reversion affects, and you have the exhaust flow and backpressure travel issues....

P'cola FD 02-05-2003 11:40 PM

Help me understand this reversion a little better. All I'm talking about is matching the runners at the UIM to LIM connection, and maybe the throttle body. The runners will taper back to their normal size long before the LIM to side housing connection.

1Revvin7 02-06-2003 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by P'cola FD' date='Feb 6 2003, 12:40 AM
Help me understand this reversion a little better. All I'm talking about is matching the runners at the UIM to LIM connection, and maybe the throttle body. The runners will taper back to their normal size long before the LIM to side housing connection.

Then you should be all good, thats what i plan on doing.

DJ Rotor 02-06-2003 08:41 AM

Oh yeah, I misunderstood - I thought you were talking about matching the intake to the housings. No risk whatever in doing what you were considering.



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banzaitoyota 02-07-2003 11:42 AM

I have some 6" long carbide burr bits I use

pluto 03-05-2003 03:46 AM

I just saw this with my name mentioned :-D Here're the reason why you have to be very careful when porting your TB or LIM in a FD. The wall on the TB is very thin and is hollow inside. You don't want to go too far with it or you'll have to trash the TB. I had one done for experiment and went a little too far. As for the LIM, if you ported too much, you can crack the wall adjacent to the EGR which could leak air or suck dust into your motor. You just can't go too extreme with them or you'll end up trashing it.



Hope that helps


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