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Judge Ito 02-07-2003 10:00 PM

Pic. enjoy..

Judge Ito 02-07-2003 10:02 PM

I amazed myself with this drawing... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

j9fd3s 02-07-2003 10:59 PM

thats better than i could do



mike

rotarychainsaw 02-07-2003 11:04 PM

Cool!

blaze08 02-08-2003 12:22 AM

Is that the exact porting you did on The white 2nd gen 6port that you showed us the picture of. How's the white car coming along, you said it had the stock computer right.

rotary>piston 02-08-2003 01:18 AM

Damn, now that's what I call a port!

Tell me, is the cause of the rough idle the increased overlap, or just the sheer size of the ports?

Also, is that car driven daily?

Judge Ito 02-08-2003 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by blaze08' date='Feb 8 2003, 06:22 AM
Is that the exact porting you did on The white 2nd gen 6port that you showed us the picture of. How's the white car coming along, you said it had the stock computer right.

That is the bridgeport that I made for the white FC. The Rx7 runs really strong for having little mods. Vosko has a video of us drag racing in the general discussion section. Yes he is still using the factory ecu.

Judge Ito 02-08-2003 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by rotary>piston' date='Feb 8 2003, 07:18 AM
Damn, now that's what I call a port!

Tell me, is the cause of the rough idle the increased overlap, or just the sheer size of the ports?

Also, is that car driven daily?

Rough idle?? I love that idle https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Increased overlap has an effect on the idle and low rpm power. But this engine is using the factory auxilary modified sleeves on the 5&6 ports to help low rpm power. Yes this Rx7 is a daily driver.

DJ Rotor 02-08-2003 12:44 PM

Most excellent!



Couple more questions: the bottom half of the port is always on - did you consider giving that part only a street port, and having the bridge port only on the auxiliarys? What effect would this have? I'd think then you'd have better low-rpm torque and fuel mileage, with the bridge available when the auxiliarys open - although obviously flow would be limited compared to the way it is now. Also what did you do with the centre housing?



Thanks!



J

blaze08 02-08-2003 01:57 PM

What if i did this kind of porting Judge Ito. What else would i need to do. Give me some tips, I'm all the way over here in Florida, otherwise i'd pass by you're shop and just talk all about rx7's.

Judge Ito 02-08-2003 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by DJ Rotor' date='Feb 8 2003, 06:44 PM
Most excellent!



Couple more questions: the bottom half of the port is always on - did you consider giving that part only a street port, and having the bridge port only on the auxiliarys? What effect would this have? I'd think then you'd have better low-rpm torque and fuel mileage, with the bridge available when the auxiliarys open - although obviously flow would be limited compared to the way it is now. Also what did you do with the centre housing?



Thanks!



J

My next N/A proyect is exactly that. A streetport on the regular 4 ports and a bridge on the 5&6 ports. The center plate for the white FC engine I also did a big bridgeport.

Judge Ito 02-08-2003 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by blaze08' date='Feb 8 2003, 07:57 PM
What if i did this kind of porting Judge Ito. What else would i need to do. Give me some tips, I'm all the way over here in Florida, otherwise i'd pass by you're shop and just talk all about rx7's.

ok this kinda of porting needs a free flowing exhaust to eliminate back pressure. The problem with a free flowing exhaust is the noise level. This 6 port bridgeport engine is going to have a custom exhaust. If I manage to control the noise level and allow a nice free flowing exhaust, Ill post the exhaust set up that I used. Your going to need bigger secondary injectors. The first gen. GSL-SE model have some nice 750cc injectors that pop right in to the secondary injector fuel rail. Some MSD's For the leading coil you could use the MSD 6AL and for the trailing coils you could use the MSD DIS 2. is basically one MSD box with two channels for the trailing factory coils. I have more tips. Ill post them if your going to go this route..

blaze08 02-08-2003 06:16 PM

I'll be hearing from you then... Till then I still have that extra 6port engine in my garage. I"m not going to start to do anything with it right now though. Hopefully by next month.

Judge Ito 02-08-2003 06:22 PM

Just let me know when ever your ready. Like a rotary super hero that I try to be. Ill be here for you. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Maxt 02-08-2003 08:44 PM

Judge Ito, a little off topic, but what do you think of using na rotors with a bridgeported turbo motor..

I was thinking that the higher compression rotors would help to difuse some of the effects of the large overlap at low speeds, similar to upping the compression when fitting a piston motor with a larger camshaft, in order to maintain a minimum amount of low speed cranking pressure, and enable the motor to run without having to advance the ignition in next week and throw a ton of fuel at it to get it to idle... I realize there is less boost potential with higher cr rotors on a given grade of fuel however I am thinking this would help maintain off boost driveability as well..Maxt

blaze08 02-09-2003 01:53 AM

Maxt, i wish i could answer you! And Judge Ito thanks for the support man, This site is very Fortunate to have you. Thanks for sharing your Knowlege with the rest. Felix Wankel would be proud of you(LOL). https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif

Fd3BOOST 02-09-2003 11:44 AM

Judge that looks nice https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png Did you trace? J/K Out of curiosity do you have a dyno there at your shop?

Judge Ito 02-09-2003 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Feb 9 2003, 05:44 PM
Judge that looks nice https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png Did you trace? J/K Out of curiosity do you have a dyno there at your shop?

I see you under estimate my drawing skills https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png .. No trace, free hand drawing. I forgot to let you guys in a secret I draw a little too. No Dyno yet. My shop is not that big. is 30X30X30 feet. I have parking out side my shop for about 40 cars but very small inside. Soon Im going to move and I will purchase a Dyno. Ill keep everybody posted.

Fd3BOOST 02-09-2003 12:31 PM

Yea I draw and paint some too. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Apex13B 02-09-2003 02:36 PM

Judge..are you looking for a Chassis dyno or a engine dyno?

Judge Ito 02-09-2003 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Apex13B' date='Feb 9 2003, 08:36 PM
Judge..are you looking for a Chassis dyno or a engine dyno?

When Im ready for one, Ill be looking for a chassis Dyno.

Judge Ito 02-09-2003 05:49 PM

FD3boost that is a nice drawing, you have good control in your outlines. Your going to do very well porting engines.

Fd3BOOST 02-09-2003 10:57 PM

Problem is I already ported mine.

No more to port now. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/violin.gif

Judge Ito 02-10-2003 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Feb 10 2003, 04:57 AM
Problem is I already ported mine.

No more to port now. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/violin.gif

You need to keep practicing. Ask some buddies to let you port there engines..

Mazderati 02-16-2003 01:26 AM

Judge Ito,



I'll start out with some much do thanks for contributing to the forums. It is nice that you don't mind sharing information about what you have experienced and dealt with over the years.



A few questions for you now:



1.) What purpose does the little sliver of material seperating the two pieces of the bridge port do? The same sliver is there keeping the stock ports from being one whole port.



2.) What do you think of notching the rotor housings to allow the bridge/j ports to flow as optimal as possible and do you do this to the motors you bridge port? Does this accelerate wear?



3.) If you do notch the rotor housings, I would assume you are not able to use the stock apex seal as the smaller pieces of it would fall out?



4.) Have you had any experiences with the "bridge" of metal in between the stock port and the non-stock (bridge) port cracking, especially under boosted situations? Is this common and to be expected?



That's all for now. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png I'm sure I'll be looking to soak up more information later.



Thanks.



Best Regards,



Kyle


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