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Drago86 07-11-2006 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Ito' post='133093' date='Jan 11 2003, 06:48 PM

That is the whole problem with the aftermarket seals like Hurleys and Atkins. I have seen .0016 of metal expansion when the engine warms up under a load. If you don't make the seals a bit shorter,(even though is a 2 piece apex seal) the shorter piece of the apex seal will slip over the larger peace when the engine is under some serious temperature,(because of the metal expansion promblem) and create some blow by or leakage from one chamber into another.I have talk to many people that did what Hurley recommended. Not to clearance the seals and all I could say is many ,many people are not using Hurleys seals anymore. I took a 2piece 2mm Atkins apex seal and measured the seal, then I heated the seal with my acetylene torch, I had the apex seal turn cherry red and let the seal cool off and re-measured and I had an apex seal that was .0016 of an inch larger from side to side. If you have a rotor housing with a width of 80mm and start with an apex seal with 80mm your going to have problems. becuase this apex seals grow like Chia Pets under some temperature. Stock seals have a totally different hardening and do not grow like the after market ones do.





I have a huge problem with this. Having a 2 piece seal too long is what makes the assist piece stay below the main one, if you clearance the seal shorter then the rotor housing the assist piece will ride up and cause low compression.

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rxstephen 01-01-2007 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by Drago86' post='827950' date='Jul 11 2006, 11:59 PM

I have a huge problem with this. Having a 2 piece seal too long is what makes the assist piece stay below the main one, if you clearance the seal shorter then the rotor housing the assist piece will ride up and cause low compression.

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Well it's now 2007! So time for a correction.



Drago86, your second picture with the assist piece riding higher than the rest of the apex seal will not happen. There is a spring holding both parts of the seal out to the housing, if the seal is sized slightly smaller than the width of the housing then you will get a gap, either between the assist and the rest of the seal or between the apex and the end plate. Once the seal expands with heat that gap will reduce.





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RXStephen

Jay7 02-07-2007 06:47 PM

Just the type of stuff I was looking for!!



Jay7..

t2rew 05-12-2007 12:41 PM

mmmm https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blush.gif would this be why i have just had two engines warp there tips https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif


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