i was wondering if my 86 rx7 could drift i put a lsd from a TII, electric fan, 2 1/2 exhaust and stripped down inside

i drifted kahren's n/a FC but you will need alot of skill!

Drifting is not about just power.Drifting is a combination of Speed and Power.To answer your question N/A fc's drift great. Just stay clear of super wide sticky tires.Stock 205 or 215 tire width will get the job done.They are also great to learn to drift in.As said before it will greatly increase your skills.

ive been in an na fc drifing sears point, i think momentum is important, because you dont have a ton of power

couldnt ya just stiffen up the rear and get proper tires... regardless of power..

its not just about making the rear tires spin, you need the car to glide smoothly. fc's cannot do that stock

Can a non turbo rx7 drift?



Does a bear **** in the woods?

ill have to learn and get some skills and see what happens https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif

You talk as if that is Fact.Maybe you could not do it in a stock fc that does not mean that no one can.. I have been in a few different bone stock Fc's that could drift very well. It's all in the driver not the car.Is it the best drift car stock probly not.



Things you may want to look into to make it better are DTSS Toe eliminator bushings, adjustable toe links factory service manual calls them Lateral links. Those 2 things will make the rear much more predictable.You can get endless parts to make the fc drift better.A stock N/A fc may not be the best drift car but it can drift.Even better with some parts..I assume you own an nissan that is my only guess as to why you would think every other car cannot drift smoothly even though stock it has as many bad features as any other stock car..

DTSS in affect? Only if you have LSD :P

He said he had put in an LSD out of a Turbo 2. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

actually i've drifted stock miata,fc,fd,s13,s14,blazer,corolla, i can't think of much else



i said n/a FC's aren't smooth sliding stock, if you think they are show me video please, of bone stock FC's sliding like a stock s13 and prove me wrong

if the fc is stock and is working like it should, it will be very hard to drift.

if the suspension is shot it may actaulyl be easier to drift it.

Ok your wording made it sound as if you where saying it could not drift. What technically makes the stock s13 smoother? I am not going to post any videos. You have driven and seen both and formed a personal opinion.It is not fact that a stock s13 is any smoother drifting then an N/A fc. It is all relative.



The question was not about weather your s13 was a better drift car. The question was if it is possible for an N/A fc to drift in wich many people do.Smoother then a s13 maybe maybe not. He wants to drift his car is it possible. Yes it is . Will it look the best and or be the smoothest. Who cares stock cars don't look very smooth drifting. Yes even your s13 with its massive body roll just like the fc and any other stock car.

Also nowhere in this thread did I even say the fc was smoother then your s13.You just took offense to my comment about you owning a nissan and felt you had to defend it. In wich my experience with many other nissan 240,s13,180sx owners I have been graced by there presence seem to think there stock nissan is the ultimate drift machine.Don't take offense to any of this I am not **** talking your s13. They have there merits..



[EDIT] Big J MIxalot Enjoy and have fun. You can do it! Drift its f***ing Balls off!

anything is possible. pigs can fly too

...but a stock nissan IS the ultimate drifting machine! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Oh lord...not the mazda vs nissan **** throwing contest again! This happens on too many forums...



First off, FCs were intended to get traction from the factory and be a well balanced car. This "get traction" attitude from mazda in the late 80s, early 90s resulted in a car that is in fact hard to "drift" stock as vosko was saying. The DTSS is a glitch..and needs to be taken out of the picture if you have any hopes of drifting. I started in my '88 SE NON LSD "drifting" ..which now of course i realize was just sliding cuz i had enough speed... but you CAN drift an NA FC. Get some used tires, an LSD (stock is fine..mechanical from '87/'88 is better the later '89/'91 viscous units) and go tear it up. Your gonna suck. Your gonna feel like a fish flopping around...and yea..your gonna look horrible doing it... EVERYBODY starts somewhere.



That said... building an FC into a full out drift car is possible too, and i have nissan buddies who also have drifted modded FCs and actually say the FC is MORE predictable then the nissan w/ the right mods... its all in what kind of driver you are and what you do to your ride..

weight polarization, engine placement, steering angle, yadda yadda yadda...



http://www.fc3spro.com/TECH/DRIFT/dori.html



























drifting's played.

Even on fc3spro's site though..if you pay attention, it shows that with mods, the FC can be a better platform... The biggest hold up I see and agree w/ the S-body guys is the multi-link rear we have vs the double wishbone they have... thats stock though.



The S-body is a better beginner, but the FC is for skilled drivers or enjoy highspeed (not that you cant w/ an Sbody, just saying)

Hey, those seats I sold you look good in the FC. As to sliding, I started going out in parking lots in the rain to get a feel for how the rear would slide, then I would start counter steering and opening up the circle till i got a nice wide circle going. Rain is your friend when you don't have power, I have 105whp to the wheels, in the rain I can do it with no problem in 2nd gear, in the dry with some hard rubber on the rears and soft on the fronts.

340-360 compound is good for the rears in the dry. Give me a call and I'll take you for a spin in my car https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif

That is once I put my car back together, new rear springs, lsd, front coilovers, camber plates, SS brake lines and fender flares(gotta cut my fenders to fit my 225/50/15's).

Also, ziptie those skirts and front dam, you will eat those up real quick if you bolt them on. I'd leave them off when you first start practicing.......looks can be expensive....ask AngryEarl https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

As much as I lover drifting the FC, I'm not sure I'd ever say it's a better platform. That is completely dependant on the driver. Our short wheelbase makes the car very twitchy when drifting, which is why so many people have a problem with snap-oversteer. Many complain about lack of steering angle, which is true, but is honestly just a lack of skill https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png



And everyone's right about a stock FC being near impossible to drift if you don't have the skill. Just like One320B, it's built to stick from the factory, and will understeer at the limit. Getting some cheap coilovers will open up new doors in terms of drifting. The toe eliminators are also a good idea, but those NCDA guys swear by them. But then again, they're all wierdos! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



I do not recommend learning on some used, worn out tires. They'll get you into bad habits and just extend your learning period. Get some used tires that still have traction, that'll be your best bet.

I swap bumpers for events... RE Amemiya front for shows & cruises... no bumper for drift right now... maybe later... i want to fidn a cheap front bumper to throw on for track days...

My dad knows where there are some parking lots that are empty and no one lives there so i am gonna go practice there

who is this guy

he is your daddy!



earl rules https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

i got some coilovers should that help me https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

89 raq put it best if it is fr then hell ya it candrift it is more of a question of if you can drift i drifted the hell outa my na before i spun a bearing https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

I'll admit I'm a shitty drifter, but if i can kick my 82 GSL sideways in the rain with no peoblem, and keep it sideways through the S turns around most of the streets around here, I know that the 13B in an FC can do it beautifully with or without boost. I have gone sideways in my car, a carb'd 13B GSL-SE, an N/A F, and 2 TIIs. I still believe to this day that it is the skill you posess in keeping your car controlled when you DO get it sideways that makes drifting what it is. Going sideways is great, but not a balls against Balls sport. If you are worried strictly about the amount of balls your car has then you'll probably do better in 'real' racing than drift (no offence intended!!) but think about it logically. There are AE86's, 240's, and N/A/ turbos doing almost as well with their boosted (or not) 4 cylinder and rotary engines as the guys that have BLOWN V8 engines and damn V10's, which illustrates the point that power and torque, while not unnecessary, (duh) doesn't play nearly the role in drift as it does in conventional drag and sprint style races.

my cars suspension is completely stock! some minor power increases.

it drifts very well, i am not great at it just yet, but ok i guess.

YOU CAN DRIFT ANYTHING!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

well spooken......i have had a n/a 3rd gen supra with some mods, lsd, and 97 tt wheels that were 11in wide!! drifter and slid great....i have drifted n/a ae 86s, i have a fb with a 13b in it, just picked up a fc n/a..few mods drifts great!! love the car! need lsd ( BUT AS MY REFERANCE AND OPIONIN, NO MATTER WHAT ANYONES SAYS BECAUSE I CAN DRIFT GOOD, HONESTLY IM 20 AND IVE BEEN DRIFTING SENCE I WAS 15 WHEN I OWNED MY 1989 SUPRA AND IM GREAT AT IT, YOU DONT NEED LSD, YOU DONT NEED POWER, YOU DONT NEED EVEN A RWD CAR.....IT ALL HELPS BUT NOT NESSESARY ALL YOU NEED ITS BALLS, AND SKILL!!



OH YEAH. I own a 1991 s13coupe!! and i love the car....but you gotta love the rotory!!!

i agree with you mostly, i dont think you can drift a fwd car as well or anythingn near that of a rwd, you cannot carry out long drifts with it, it has nothing to propel it forward.

I tried to drift my 91 N/A. I think i had a better time drifting with my 99 explorer sport. Feels tooo twitchy and snaps the hell out of you. My LSD is shot so a new one would help.