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OKIERX-7 06-30-2002 04:49 AM

Hey all I think I need a little help. What does an adjustable fuel pressure regulator do? Can it lower fuel pressure? Ever since I put this big Walbro in my car it has been running overly rich. The S-AFC doesn't seem to compensate enough for it. So before I throw more money at an adjustable FPR I need to know that it's going to do what I want it to do, which is, lower my fuel pressure. I'm looking at the Aeromotive A 1000 6 FPR right now which is supposed to be adjustable between 30-70 psi or something like that.



Thanks,

Michael

13BAce 06-30-2002 08:07 AM

Yes, you can lower the fuel pressure with it, provided that you're not using the stock regulator as well. If you place the aftermarket FPR after the stock one then you can only raise the pressure.

vosko 06-30-2002 08:55 AM

umm that's the one i got. have fun hooking it up LOL

OKIERX-7 06-30-2002 10:41 AM

Can I disable the stock fpr by removing and capping the vacuum line nipples or do I need to remove the fpr completely from the fuel rail?



Why do you say that vosko? How hard could it be?

dac 06-30-2002 12:53 PM

The only thing the vacuum line does to the factory regulator is raise the fuel pressure when decelerating for emissions.



But if you disable that I'm not sure what the factory ECU would do, might experience lean decelerating = backfiring.

OKIERX-7 06-30-2002 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by dac' date='Jun 30 2002, 08:53 PM
The only thing the vacuum line does to the factory regulator is raise the fuel pressure when decelerating for emissions.



But if you disable that I'm not sure what the factory ECU would do, might experience lean decelerating = backfiring.

Well my vacuum rack and emissions are ALL removed. So, I don't see how that would effect it. Not saying you're wrong I just don't see the relationship. Plus, the only connection to my FPR is a single vacuum line leading to the UIM.



If I'm missing something let me know.

OKIERX-7 06-30-2002 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jun 30 2002, 04:07 PM
Yes, you can lower the fuel pressure with it, provided that you're not using the stock regulator as well. If you place the aftermarket FPR after the stock one then you can only raise the pressure.

So, it probably needs to be installed after the fuel filter but before the primary fuel rail?

13BAce 06-30-2002 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by OKIERX-7' date='Jun 30 2002, 01:41 PM
Can I disable the stock fpr by removing and capping the vacuum line nipples or do I need to remove the fpr completely from the fuel rail?



Why do you say that vosko? How hard could it be?

On the 89-91 motors the stock FPR is welded to the fuel rail. Using an 87-88 TII secondary rail would be a better idea. Check out http://fc3s-pro.com/TECH/MODS/FUEL/fpr.htm for setup tips.

13BAce 06-30-2002 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by OKIERX-7' date='Jun 30 2002, 04:28 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 30 2002, 04:07 PM']Yes, you can lower the fuel pressure with it, provided that you're not using the stock regulator as well. If you place the aftermarket FPR after the stock one then you can only raise the pressure.

So, it probably needs to be installed after the fuel filter but before the primary fuel rail?[/quote]

NO, you MUST install it after the secondary rail. Installing it before the fuel rails will cause many problems. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

OKIERX-7 07-01-2002 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jul 1 2002, 05:51 AM
[quote name='OKIERX-7' date='Jun 30 2002, 04:28 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 30 2002, 04:07 PM']Yes, you can lower the fuel pressure with it, provided that you're not using the stock regulator as well. If you place the aftermarket FPR after the stock one then you can only raise the pressure.

So, it probably needs to be installed after the fuel filter but before the primary fuel rail?[/quote]

NO, you MUST install it after the secondary rail. Installing it before the fuel rails will cause many problems. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png[/quote]

Heh, good thing I don't give automotive advice for a living....Thanks for the link Ace. Now I see why putting that FPR in is somewhat of a major undertaking. I'll probably go back to a smaller pump for now.

13BAce 07-01-2002 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by OKIERX-7' date='Jul 1 2002, 01:19 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 1 2002, 05:51 AM'][quote name='OKIERX-7' date='Jun 30 2002, 04:28 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 30 2002, 04:07 PM']Yes, you can lower the fuel pressure with it, provided that you're not using the stock regulator as well. If you place the aftermarket FPR after the stock one then you can only raise the pressure.

So, it probably needs to be installed after the fuel filter but before the primary fuel rail?[/quote]

NO, you MUST install it after the secondary rail. Installing it before the fuel rails will cause many problems. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png[/quote]

Heh, good thing I don't give automotive advice for a living....Thanks for the link Ace. Now I see why putting that FPR in is somewhat of a major undertaking. I'll probably go back to a smaller pump for now.[/quote]

Don't worry about the rich idle. It's not a big deal. A good fuel pressure gauge would tell you how your fuel pressure is.

OKIERX-7 07-01-2002 11:38 PM

Heh, actually I sold that Hi-pressure Walbro today and ordered the lo-pressure walbro at the same time. plus I took my injectors in to get cleaned, so I'll let you know how that works out for me.

BTW the engine was getting SO much fuel that it wouldn't start and lacked all power. I have an S-AFC to tune the injector cycle but if fuel is blowing by the injectors thats a problem.

13BAce 07-01-2002 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by OKIERX-7' date='Jul 2 2002, 02:38 AM
Heh, actually I sold that Hi-pressure Walbro today and ordered the lo-pressure walbro at the same time. plus I took my injectors in to get cleaned, so I'll let you know how that works out for me.

BTW the engine was getting SO much fuel that it wouldn't start and lacked all power. I have an S-AFC to tune the injector cycle but if fuel is blowing by the injectors thats a problem.

Ok, you win. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Let us know how it is when you get it back together.

OKIERX-7 07-02-2002 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jul 2 2002, 07:40 AM
[quote name='OKIERX-7' date='Jul 2 2002, 02:38 AM']Heh, actually I sold that Hi-pressure Walbro today and ordered the lo-pressure walbro at the same time. plus I took my injectors in to get cleaned, so I'll let you know how that works out for me.

BTW the engine was getting SO much fuel that it wouldn't start and lacked all power. I have an S-AFC to tune the injector cycle but if fuel is blowing by the injectors thats a problem.

Ok, you win. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Let us know how it is when you get it back together.[/quote]

Yeah! hopefully I won a running T2.

13BAce 07-02-2002 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by OKIERX-7' date='Jul 2 2002, 07:07 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 2 2002, 07:40 AM'][quote name='OKIERX-7' date='Jul 2 2002, 02:38 AM']Heh, actually I sold that Hi-pressure Walbro today and ordered the lo-pressure walbro at the same time. plus I took my injectors in to get cleaned, so I'll let you know how that works out for me.

BTW the engine was getting SO much fuel that it wouldn't start and lacked all power. I have an S-AFC to tune the injector cycle but if fuel is blowing by the injectors thats a problem.

Ok, you win. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Let us know how it is when you get it back together.[/quote]

Yeah! hopefully I won a running T2.[/quote]

I tried a Walbro once, but it never seemed to work properly.

OKIERX-7 07-02-2002 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jul 3 2002, 12:17 AM
[quote name='OKIERX-7' date='Jul 2 2002, 07:07 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 2 2002, 07:40 AM'][quote name='OKIERX-7' date='Jul 2 2002, 02:38 AM']Heh, actually I sold that Hi-pressure Walbro today and ordered the lo-pressure walbro at the same time. plus I took my injectors in to get cleaned, so I'll let you know how that works out for me.

BTW the engine was getting SO much fuel that it wouldn't start and lacked all power. I have an S-AFC to tune the injector cycle but if fuel is blowing by the injectors thats a problem.

Ok, you win. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Let us know how it is when you get it back together.[/quote]

Yeah! hopefully I won a running T2.[/quote]

I tried a Walbro once, but it never seemed to work properly.[/quote]

that makes two of us :unsure:

13BAce 07-02-2002 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by OKIERX-7' date='Jul 2 2002, 07:21 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 3 2002, 12:17 AM'][quote name='OKIERX-7' date='Jul 2 2002, 07:07 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 2 2002, 07:40 AM'][quote name='OKIERX-7' date='Jul 2 2002, 02:38 AM']Heh, actually I sold that Hi-pressure Walbro today and ordered the lo-pressure walbro at the same time. plus I took my injectors in to get cleaned, so I'll let you know how that works out for me.

BTW the engine was getting SO much fuel that it wouldn't start and lacked all power. I have an S-AFC to tune the injector cycle but if fuel is blowing by the injectors thats a problem.

Ok, you win. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Let us know how it is when you get it back together.[/quote]

Yeah! hopefully I won a running T2.[/quote]

I tried a Walbro once, but it never seemed to work properly.[/quote]

that makes two of us :unsure:[/quote]

It would hardly ever start on the first try. I think that the stock pump may have a valve that helps to maintain pressure in the fuel lines.

OKIERX-7 07-02-2002 10:16 PM

That didn't seem to be the problem here. I would pull the plugs after attempting to start mine and the plugs would be soaked in fuel.

I can't wait till I get the new pump tomorrow. Hopefully, it pops right over.

13BAce 07-02-2002 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by OKIERX-7' date='Jul 3 2002, 01:16 AM
That didn't seem to be the problem here. I would pull the plugs after attempting to start mine and the plugs would be soaked in fuel.

I can't wait till I get the new pump tomorrow. Hopefully, it pops right over.

Hopefully it's not your stock FPR. My friend had one fail and it wasn't releasing any pressure.

vosko 07-02-2002 10:51 PM

mine starts on the second click with the walbro in it

13BAce 07-03-2002 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jul 3 2002, 01:51 AM
mine starts on the second click with the walbro in it

So they're all like that?

OKIERX-7 07-03-2002 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jul 3 2002, 06:20 AM
[quote name='OKIERX-7' date='Jul 3 2002, 01:16 AM']That didn't seem to be the problem here. I would pull the plugs after attempting to start mine and the plugs would be soaked in fuel.

I can't wait till I get the new pump tomorrow. Hopefully, it pops right over.

Hopefully it's not your stock FPR. My friend had one fail and it wasn't releasing any pressure.[/quote]

I've been thinking it would be good to test the stock FPR as well. I just haven't had the time or tools. With the NA pump in the car ran fine, when driven around the block at low rpms. So, I'm hoping that means the FPR is fine. The new pump came in this morning and as soon as I get my injectors back, I'll let ya know what happens.

13BAce 07-03-2002 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by OKIERX-7' date='Jul 3 2002, 04:08 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 3 2002, 06:20 AM'][quote name='OKIERX-7' date='Jul 3 2002, 01:16 AM']That didn't seem to be the problem here. I would pull the plugs after attempting to start mine and the plugs would be soaked in fuel.

I can't wait till I get the new pump tomorrow. Hopefully, it pops right over.

Hopefully it's not your stock FPR. My friend had one fail and it wasn't releasing any pressure.[/quote]

I've been thinking it would be good to test the stock FPR as well. I just haven't had the time or tools. With the NA pump in the car ran fine, when driven around the block at low rpms. So, I'm hoping that means the FPR is fine. The new pump came in this morning and as soon as I get my injectors back, I'll let ya know what happens.[/quote]

The best way is to get a fuel pressure gauge.

vosko 07-04-2002 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jul 3 2002, 09:01 AM
[quote name='vosko' date='Jul 3 2002, 01:51 AM']mine starts on the second click with the walbro in it

So they're all like that?[/quote]

i dunno. maybe mine is *special* https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

13BAce 07-04-2002 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jul 4 2002, 03:31 AM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 3 2002, 09:01 AM'][quote name='vosko' date='Jul 3 2002, 01:51 AM']mine starts on the second click with the walbro in it

So they're all like that?[/quote]

i dunno. maybe mine is *special* https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]

Yes, special. :P

OKIERX-7 07-04-2002 07:54 PM

"Special" like the little bus....



Yea! my car runs again!! I put the low pressure walbro in and it starts up fine. I have a power issue, but I think its still running rich. I pulled my plugs and the front rotors plugs are black i.e. rich condition. The rear rotors are spotless however ?! Also, boost is low, maybe around 6psi at WOT. I attribute the low boost to the rich condition =, but the rear plugs looking spotless while the fronts are black puzzle me. Surely, I connected the injectors back correctly?? Correct me if I'm wrong but the injector plugs are wired by rotor and not by primary/secondary right?



And "yes" the timing and coils are good.

OKIERX-7 07-05-2002 07:59 PM

Nevermind that last post. It all works now! All I can say is OMFG! so much better than the stupid NA!


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