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wanta be boosted 09-30-2003 05:10 PM

I think that these clutch's are fully rebuildable, and I just bought one, and it is fine, I am just wondering were I can buy new clutch disks, and the other parts for it if it ever goes out?

vosko 09-30-2003 05:11 PM

they are

jspecracer7 09-30-2003 05:36 PM

The great thing about these clutches is that they're rebuildable, and last a long time. I rebuilt my over a hear ago and paid in the neighborhood of $600 for it. The disks come from the factory at 4mm thick. You can wear them down to 1mm thick. I measured mine the last time I rebuilt my engine(about 2 months ago) and found that the disks(after a year of abuse) have worn down to 3.5mm...so they'll wear down about 1mm every 2 years...that means I shouldn't have to buy new disks/plates for another 3 1/2 to 4 years. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

Leetheslacker 09-30-2003 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by jspecracer7' date='Sep 30 2003, 06:36 PM
The great thing about these clutches is that they're rebuildable, and last a long time. I rebuilt my over a hear ago and paid in the neighborhood of $600 for it. The disks come from the factory at 4mm thick. You can wear them down to 1mm thick. I measured mine the last time I rebuilt my engine(about 2 months ago) and found that the disks(after a year of abuse) have worn down to 3.5mm...so they'll wear down about 1mm every 2 years...that means I shouldn't have to buy new disks/plates for another 3 1/2 to 4 years. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

I thought yours was a twin plate?

wanta be boosted 09-30-2003 05:54 PM

Well acctually I bought it used for $350.



And it has been used for 1000 miles (supposedly). And one of the disk, the 1st one (closest to the engine), looke pretty worn down. The rest look gook. But I don't think there 4mm. I'll have to check on that one.



Anyways, can anyone give me a link to save, or a site that sells the parts. I've searched google, and found nothing.



Also this is not for an RX-7, it is going in supra7 which has a 7MGTE.







Thanks, Cory

wanta be boosted 09-30-2003 06:07 PM

http://www.msnusers.com/fuelcutswitch/shoe...oto&PhotoID=146





Here's a picture.

IGY 09-30-2003 07:22 PM

I had the same exact clutch on one of my 7M supras. The front disks always go fast on the 7M. Make sure you clean all of the crap out of the input shaft splines and apply a light coat of high temp grease. I live in Okinawa, so I just go to the closest shop and order the parts. I heard that there is an OS rep in the states now.

wanta be boosted 09-30-2003 08:22 PM

What did you think you the clutch???



Hard to drive on the street?

IGY 10-01-2003 06:08 AM

Actually alot easier to drive than the twin I had in my other Supra. Very streetable.

jspecracer7 10-01-2003 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Leetheslacker' date='Oct 1 2003, 07:49 AM
I thought yours was a twin plate?

Yep...twin. The 3 plate rebuild will cost more of course because of one more disk/plate.

wanta be boosted 10-01-2003 03:22 PM

Hey IGY, is this clutch a push or pull type throw out bearing???





By looking at it, it looks like a push type, but the stock 7MGTE supra is a pull type. So I am wondering were can I get the thow out bearing, and the right slave cylinder?

IGY 10-01-2003 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by wanta be boosted' date='Oct 2 2003, 05:22 AM
Hey IGY, is this clutch a push or pull type throw out bearing???





By looking at it, it looks like a push type, but the stock 7MGTE supra is a pull type. So I am wondering were can I get the thow out bearing, and the right slave cylinder?

There is a conversion kit similar to the FD that changes it to push type. It comes with the throwout bearing and sleeve, and a cool looking cantilever arm that bolts inside the bellhousing. I don't know how much it costs, but I assume that it should be around $400 like the FD kit.

93 R1 10-01-2003 07:20 PM

Doesn't that suck? Another $400 to make it work.



Thats why I passed up a good deal on a used one. I'll kick myself later though.

wanta be boosted 10-02-2003 06:54 AM

AHHHHHHHH....



Damn it, that sucks!



Does anyone know were to get that kit? I haven't even found a web site that sells the tripple disks for MKIII yet. So I have no clue were to start looking for parts.

jspecracer7 10-02-2003 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by 93 R1' date='Oct 2 2003, 09:20 AM
Doesn't that suck? Another $400 to make it work.



Thats why I passed up a good deal on a used one. I'll kick myself later though.

Yes...start kicking yourself now. Like I said. I've still got another 5 years on my clutch before it gets "close".

jackdhammer 10-02-2003 12:19 PM

Don't mind my ignorance. What is the advantage to the twin and triple plate clutches? How much would a twin or triple plate set up cost stateside? Any links would be appreciated. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

epion2985 10-02-2003 03:28 PM

I would also like to know the answers to those questions

wanta be boosted 10-02-2003 06:38 PM


Don't mind my ignorance. What is the advantage to the twin and triple plate clutches? How much would a twin or triple plate set up cost stateside? Any links would be appreciated.




Brand new, on the average a OS Giken twin plate is about $1500-2000, and a tripple is abour $2000-2500. But that is new, also good luck finding a used one, it tooke me forever.







And the advantage of it, is if you have ALOT of HP, meaning like 750+ HP. ANd you can't find a clutch that won't slip under heavy demand. The trin effectively double's the surface area of your clutch and increase's clamping power, and the tripple, well tripple's the surface area of your clutch, and give's you more clamping power.





But I still need to know were to get the throw out bearing kit for this thing, because without it, I've got a $350 paper weight!

epion2985 10-02-2003 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by wanta be boosted' date='Oct 2 2003, 03:38 PM
Brand new, on the average a OS Giken twin plate is about $1500-2000, and a tripple is abour $2000-2500. But that is new, also good luck finding a used one, it tooke me forever.







And the advantage of it, is if you have ALOT of HP, meaning like 750+ HP. ANd you can't find a clutch that won't slip under heavy demand. The trin effectively double's the surface area of your clutch and increase's clamping power, and the tripple, well tripple's the surface area of your clutch, and give's you more clamping power.





But I still need to know were to get the throw out bearing kit for this thing, because without it, I've got a $350 paper weight!

any disadvantages to a tripple plate?



do they make tripple plate clutched for fd's?

wanta be boosted 10-02-2003 08:22 PM

I honestly don't know if they make them for FD's, I still haven't even found a tripple for an MKIII supra, well exept for the used on ethat I bought.





And I don't know about the disadvanage's because I haven't drove it yet, but I have heard one guy say that they are very hard to slip. And a huge pain in teh butt to take off of a hill with. And I'm sure it is alot worse in traffic.

IGY 10-03-2003 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by wanta be boosted' date='Oct 3 2003, 10:22 AM
I honestly don't know if they make them for FD's, I still haven't even found a tripple for an MKIII supra, well exept for the used on ethat I bought.





And I don't know about the disadvanage's because I haven't drove it yet, but I have heard one guy say that they are very hard to slip. And a huge pain in teh butt to take off of a hill with. And I'm sure it is alot worse in traffic.

This is a total crock! I've been driving a twin or triple for the better part of the last 7yrs. They are actually easier to drive than an upgraded single(ACT for example), do to the fact that they can use a lower pressure clutch cover because of the increased surface area.



Yes they make triples for FD's, Dragon has one in his car.

jspecracer7 10-03-2003 05:45 AM

Igy's right. I have been driving a twin plate for over two years now. I have driven both the ACT extreme(whatever the top power holder ACT makes) and the clutchmaster stage 5. Both were extremely hard to drive when compared to my twin plate. Let me repeat...EXTREMELY HARD TO DRIVE WHEN COMPARED TO MY TWIN PLATE....seriously. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png

wanta be boosted 10-03-2003 03:08 PM


This is a total crock! I've been driving a twin or triple for the better part of the last 7yrs. They are actually easier to drive than an upgraded single(ACT for example), do to the fact that they can use a lower pressure clutch cover because of the increased surface area.




OK, if you want to get pissy do it with someone else!!!





Because I am just relaying information from what I have heard!





And you still aren't answering my question, were do you get the throw out bearing kit?

jspecracer7 10-04-2003 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by wanta be boosted' date='Oct 4 2003, 05:08 AM
OK, if you want to get pissy do it with someone else!!!





Because I am just relaying information from what I have heard!





And you still aren't answering my question, were do you get the throw out bearing kit?


I live in Okinawa, so I just go to the closest shop and order the parts. I heard that there is an OS rep in the states now.

jackdhammer 10-04-2003 02:49 PM

Does anyone else make twin plates for FDs? I thought I saw something from blitz or HKS some where. Is Gilken the best?

93 R1 10-04-2003 07:31 PM

I really don't think he was being "pissy"



He was just telling you the real answer

wanta be boosted 10-05-2003 08:22 AM

If he wasn't then I'm sorry, but there are MUCH better ways of saying something over the net so that it doesn't sound offending since I can't hear anyone's voive. I'm going by the text, and the ! at the end.

IGY 10-05-2003 08:40 AM

And I was going by the fact that you made it very clear that SOMEONE ELSE told you that a twin was harder to drive. I'm not taking issue with you I'm taking issue with the people that have never driven a twin and are spreading there theories as fact. Basically what 93R1 said. Doesn't anyone else get tired of hearing someone's opinion passed on as fact? Doesn't anyone else get pissed when they buy something that is supposed to work, and they find out that they have to spend more money to make it work? Sorry I was misunderstood.

wanta be boosted 10-05-2003 10:08 AM

Nahhh, doesn't make me mad that I have to spend more money on it.



That's life.

Dragon 10-06-2003 09:29 AM

It really pisses me off when people tell others they need this and that etc and they have no idea what in the hell they are talking about. It also causes people to blow engines and spend a lot of $ they don't have. This also pisses me off.



I have a triple plate ORC (Ogura Racing) clutch and it's also easier to drive than a strong single ever thought of being. The clutch pedal is a little softer than the OS Giken Twin, but the OS Twin is a little easier to actually drive. As for the push/pull kit and throw out bearing we can get them here in Japan. JT Imports should be able to pick one up for you.

93 R1 10-06-2003 10:24 AM

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toddp31 10-10-2003 07:34 PM

Once you actually drive a twin or triple you will never go back, why is the states so scared? Everyone has twins over here, even some boost up only fd's!

T2 vert 10-10-2003 07:37 PM

Back to the orignal question, because I need new disks for my clutch. Does anybody know how to order new parts?

toddp31 10-10-2003 07:43 PM

I can order them but they aren't cheap! OS plates are 25,000 yen a piece. Or about 230 dollars, that is only the plates. What all do you need and I can get a price and let you know, if you can't find anyone else.

wanta be boosted 10-10-2003 08:25 PM

What can you get the throw out bearing kit for? The kit would be for a 7MGTE.



Jimbo on te supra mania forum price it at $380 (US dollars)

JT-Imports 10-10-2003 08:57 PM

No problem shoot me an e-mail. hehe



Just the throwout bearing? If you get one disk, IMHO you should change all 3 if it is in fact a triple. Twin would have been enough hehe.



Also its closer to about $120 for the bearing plus shipping. Bearings are all priced pretty much the same.

toddp31 10-10-2003 09:01 PM

JT saves the day, good now I don't have to do it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

wanta be boosted 10-11-2003 07:18 AM


No problem shoot me an e-mail. hehe



Just the throwout bearing? If you get one disk, IMHO you should change all 3 if it is in fact a triple. Twin would have been enough hehe.



Also its closer to about $120 for the bearing plus shipping. Bearings are all priced pretty much the same.








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