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Orochinoyamato 06-11-2003 01:15 PM

What would happen to performance and reliability if I put in a Renesis, then took out the twin turbos and replaced them with a sequential setup of a supercharger and some really heavy single turbo? Assuming I won the lottery and gained the necessary technical abilities by means of a radioactive asteroid or something?

j9fd3s 06-11-2003 01:23 PM

um i'm gonna say nothing. the turbos are the reliability problem. if you had an na rew motor it would last many hundreds of thousands of miles. there arent a lot of reliability mods dont on the renisis, they just raised the rpms it makes power at



mike

Orochinoyamato 06-12-2003 11:32 AM

Y'mean, the turbo is that part that fails? Or that a naturally aspirated engine lasts longer than a boosted one, even if it's tuned well and all?

j9fd3s 06-12-2003 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Orochinoyamato' date='Jun 12 2003, 08:32 AM
Y'mean, the turbo is that part that fails? Or that a naturally aspirated engine lasts longer than a boosted one, even if it's tuned well and all?

the heat of the turbo is the cause for most of the failures on the fd



mike

phinsup 06-12-2003 11:41 AM

You can't turbo the renesis due to the port design, no?

Leetheslacker 06-12-2003 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Jun 12 2003, 12:41 PM
You can't turbo the renesis due to the port design, no?

I thought they couldnt get the cat to heat up and work with a turbo setup....

Jeff20B 06-12-2003 12:32 PM

An efficient supercharger is probably going to work better on the Renesis. But then again, Pettit now has an RX-8 or just the engine, or both lol, and they're messing with it right now. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

j9fd3s 06-12-2003 12:43 PM

you can turbo it, its just not gonna like it cause its got smaller apex seals and higher compression



mike

93 R1 06-12-2003 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by Leetheslacker' date='Jun 12 2003, 12:15 PM
I thought they couldnt get the cat to heat up and work with a turbo setup....

**** the cats you tree hugging hippy https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Leetheslacker 06-13-2003 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by 93 R1' date='Jun 12 2003, 10:18 PM
**** the cats you tree hugging hippy https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Im anti cat!



Its mazda who didnt turbo it.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

FikseRxSeven 06-13-2003 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jun 12 2003, 09:43 AM
you can turbo it, its just not gonna like it cause its got smaller apex seals and higher compression



mike

wont the high compression spool up the turbos faster, and give you better lower end power?

FikseRxSeven 06-13-2003 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by 93 R1' date='Jun 12 2003, 06:18 PM
**** the cats you tree hugging hippy https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

Dragon 06-14-2003 01:08 PM

They didn't turbo it because of emissions and Ford didn't want to put forth the cash to fund testing of a turbo set up... Ie.. Renisis is nothing more than the N/A FC, just hang out for a year or two and the real deal will be released.. Supposedly there is a 1.5 liter 2 rotor turbo engine in development... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png

rotary>piston 07-01-2003 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Orochinoyamato' date='Jun 11 2003, 10:15 AM
What would happen to performance and reliability if I put in a Renesis, then took out the twin turbos and replaced them with a sequential setup of a supercharger and some really heavy single turbo? Assuming I won the lottery and gained the necessary technical abilities by means of a radioactive asteroid or something?

Oh no, add the twin supercharger with NOS activated turbos and a header for best results. Watch out though, I've seen a lot of passengers fall through the floor when the panel breaks off. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png







a 15c maybe?

I think they are trying to restore faith in the rotary with the renesis. If they turbo it it'll be just as bad as the FD, and people won't ever like the rotary.

mazdadrifter 07-01-2003 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by cmartinp28' date='Jun 13 2003, 08:57 PM
[quote name='j9fd3s' date='Jun 12 2003, 09:43 AM'] you can turbo it, its just not gonna like it cause its got smaller apex seals and higher compression



mike

wont the high compression spool up the turbos faster, and give you better lower end power? [/quote]

yes, but high compression is not what you want for middle to high boost because it encourages preignition and/or detonation.



maybe if you take the fd rotors and put them in the renisis block.... hmmmm


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